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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45581 |
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The Big 4 of thrash were Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax. Anvil were a heavy metal band, and not even that good in my humble opinion.
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20301 |
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You played a straight bat to my joke... I was trying to make you laugh... I guess you've never seen 'The Story Of Anvil' about how they started out as a Thrash band around the same time, but unlike the Big 4, didn't make it big... it's quite funny and sad in equal measure, but the doc is without doubt the best thing they ever produced.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45581 |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15139 |
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Love that film, nice that it comes up here!
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20301 |
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It's oddly really quite affecting, isn't it? |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18879 |
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Big four of neo imo: Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, Pallas. I think if we extended it to five we could add Arena. Who would be the sixth one?
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43254 |
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Magenta!
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45581 |
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Twelfth Night
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2149 |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12808 |
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My favourite band ever is Pink Floyd, and I do believe they are prog. Yet, I could understand some lists omitting them depending on which kind of prog is being represented... yet for the Big Six of prog they are certainly there for me (and for me, the Big Six is British prog of the 70's). |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18879 |
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Not sure I consider them neo. How about Jadis instead?
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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Big Six? I know there are differences in UK/USA and generational approaches to this. So, I want to say that in the 80s and 90s in the UK we spoke about the Big Five. I first came across the term Big Six only about ten years ago in a mag or on a forum. And as a kid in secondary school in London in the 70s, we didn't even use the term Big 5, we just spoke about the top prog bands of the day: ELP Genesis Jethro Tull Pink Floyd Yes And it was always those five, but of course Mike Oldfield was always suggested by some instead of the "heavy-folk rock" band Jethro Tull or the "psych-pop" band Pink Floyd. I have to touch on the subject of King Crimson of course, none of us in secondary school in London in the 70s who were listening to rock - from Led Zeppelin to Uriah Heep to ELO to the Sex Pistols - had any knowledge about King Crimson or Caravan or Gentle Giant, they just weren't on our prog rock and rock radar. I'm sure other kids knew about them.
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2149 |
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That's interesting! I like how you explained the music scene and how you and your friend came to know prog through certain bands. For me, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, it just sort of seeped in from a variety of sources. Styx and Queen were played a lot in my house, but when I moved to south Texas, there were strong connections to Rush and Triumph, as San Antonio had a major role in expanding the influence of those bands. At the same time, some prog and prog-related bands were making it onto the Top40 lists and MTV, especially Pink Floyd, Asia, Saga, Yes (3.0), Emerson, Lake and Powell, etc., while classic rock stations played a lot of Jethro Tull, early Yes, and Pink Floyd. Retracing and rediscovering early work of these bands (or earlier renditions of these bands), I expanded my influences. Now, having a "Big Six" makes good sense if you were going to make a sort of tree with various branches. They would be at the trunk, whereas proto-prog is more like the roots. Big branches would be bands like Rush, Marillion, etc., and it has just expanded from there. I think of PA as this big tree. |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Close tie between Twelfth Night and Jadis.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18879 |
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I personally would probably say Jadis but there are a lot of other contenders including Galahad, Abel Ganz, Airbag, Mystery, Sylvan, Satellite, Frost* and on and on. Magenta too even though I initially thought of them as symph prog. However, they are considered neo on here so they get tossed in the bag also. Interestingly enough, It Bites are crossover prog on here even though I used to think of them as neo. They could be a contender also if it wasn't for them being crossover.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43254 |
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I like Ranker's Top 30 of Neo Prog:- http://www.ranker.com/list/neo-progressive-rock-bands-and-musicians/reference
01. Marillion 02. IQ 03. Porcupine Tree 04. Pendragon 05. Steven Wilson 06. Arena 07. Pallas 08. Spock's Beard 09. The Pineapple Thief 10. Transatlantic 11. The Flower Kings 12. Galahad 13. Big Big Train 14. Gazpacho 15. Saga 16. Sylvan 17. Dream Theater 18. Jadis 19. The Tangent 20. Comedy of Errors 21. Magic Pie 22. Satellite 23. Starcastle 24. Clive Nolan 25. Anathema 26. Twelfth Night 27. Quidam 28. Edison's Children 29. Frost* 30. It Bites
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18879 |
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^It's a good list but not all of them are considered neo prog (at least not by what is considered neo prog on PA).
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Saga and Starcastle??? Neo-Prog???
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43254 |
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^ I don't know about Starcastle, but Saga are also listed as Neo Prog on Wikipedia.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43254 |
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It's good to see Porcupine Tree at #3, even though they're not classed as Neo Prog here on PA. ![]() The only disappointment is there's no Magenta listed in the Top 30.
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