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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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NutterAlert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2005 Location: In transition Status: Offline Points: 2808 |
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Long may this thread continue..
I was watching in the beginning DVD the other day wallowing in a bit of nostalgia and there was a segment when KE was asked why he/ELP got so much criticism, and quick as a flash he replied "because we are so good". panache, arrongance, self belief, this must have been his defence against the barbs, and how sad it appears that when his skills started to wane and with the advent of depression his self belief seemed to crumble. There is an incredibly sad youtube clip filmed recently I guess where KE says how much he is looking forward to touring Japan and tries to play a tiny segment of Tarkus on his piano. This is so horribly painful to watch. As KE himself wrote in liner notes for Ars Longa "Tomorrow is yesterday's history and art will still be there, even if life terminates" |
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giselle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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I think it's terribly sad about Keith. He did great work in bringing keyboards to the fore in the public mind, following on from Billy Ritchie, but listening to what he actually produced, I don't believe there is anything that will last beyond this generation. Perhaps he realised that too, but even so, he should have been proud of what he did achieve in this life. Desperately poignant and sad.
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brainstormer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Status: Offline Points: 887 |
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What generation are you talking about? Kids today are thinking he's great on YouTube and orchestras are playing him. Your comment is a pretty sad way to end a RIP thread.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65578 |
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^ I don't know, she was just being honest about what she thinks. And though Keith may be getting some posthumous attention, I suspect giselle's observation is largely correct. Rock is in deep recession if not on its last legs and the movers in rock are slowly fading from contemporary culture as important figures. A few Eternals still exist ~ Hendrix, Zep, Lennon&McCartney, Neil Young, etc ~ but music and its consumption has changed to where rock innovators are much less appreciated or even known. Show me a non-musician in their 20s who knows who Dave Gilmour or Keith Moon is and I'll show you someone whose parents listened to classic rock. But that's about it.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Flight123 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2010 Location: Sohar, Oman Status: Offline Points: 1399 |
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I agree that the comment appeared back handed. Keith's unfortunate death was reported on the main UK news bulletins; that was a testament to the man's enormous influence across the generations. I noted that even 'trendy' producers such as Mark Ronson also paid tribute to him.
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brainstormer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Status: Offline Points: 887 |
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There's always been a major divided consensus about Emerson's value, which clearly wasn't limited to "rock." He somewhat tried to liberate people from it.
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TheLionOfPrague ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1064 |
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Gilmour is playing in full stadiums all over the world, and he's not even playing with the band that made him famous. I think he belongs in that first group. Still I think ELP are a band that will last, they will not be mega popular, but only a few groups are, they'll always have an important following nonetheless. I've seen several people I know posting about Emerson's death on Facebook when it happened (all in their mid/early 20's).
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65578 |
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Playing in full stadiums around the world to old, old people whose musical tastes are increasingly irrelevant.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65578 |
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Emerson's value may not have been limited to rock, but his influence was, and while Prog rock did impact the commercial/Commercial Trade music of the mid-70s that impact was as much from Yes and Genesis. And I don't know if can agree that Emerson tried to liberate people from rock. He tried to liberate rock, but not people from it. Edited by Atavachron - April 07 2016 at 21:01 |
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AZF ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 17 2012 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 1079 |
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Maybe it was the wrong kind of magazine, but was dismayed to see a tiny column about Keith Emerson's death in this months Q Magazine.
Maybe the more specialist magazine are preparing their tributes, but I think with the material he produced in his life time, he deserves a dedicated collector's issue!
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4812 |
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^I would hope a mag along the lines of Mojo would do it.
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Son.of.Tiresias ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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Exactly, to liberate rock. He was a genius in many things.
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lak611 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 27 2016 Location: Cleveland, OH Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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I know this is a really old thread by now. I'm not a new fan of ELP, just new to this site.
I've never seen ELP or Keith Emerson, but I've loved the music since I was a kid. I have seen Rick Wright with Pink Floyd and Jon Lord with Deep Purple. I'm going to see Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman this fall. RIP Keith! I wish I would've had the chance to see you.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65578 |
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I was just thinking of him today. Terrible. He had kids. The poor man.
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TheLionOfPrague ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1064 |
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He did? I thought he had just his girlfriend. I never saw any mention of them or from them when he died, strange.
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65578 |
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I thought he did, maybe they were stepkids.
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I was fortunate enough to see ELP five times over the years (including once as ELPowell), but the last time I saw Keith was with the Nice in London on the 2002 reunion tour. I got to meet Lee Jackson and Brian Davison after the show, but didn't get a chance to meet Keith. If anyone's interested, I composed this tribute to Keith when he passed: https://soundcloud.com/michael-p-dawson/fanfare-for-an-uncommon-man
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