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Ricochet

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 01:35

You could underline those remarks,making it easy,Rider. Smile

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 02:07

Ricochet wrote:

You could underline those remarks,making it easy,Rider. Smile

Here is one:

Ghandi wrote:

So, knowing the definition of the word "symphonic" and not being exposed to much prog, I went into this expecting something similar to The Moodies (who I don't like, BTW) crossed with Pink Floyd; at the very least, something with STRINGS. This album has no orchestra, which I think the Symphonic page really needs to make more clear with a title as misleading as "symphonic."

I think he's trying to look wise, bu the didn't even took the time to read the definition made for Symphonic sub-genre a couple months ago before accusing us of misleading the people.

We all know the definition of Symphonic, Cert and I have discussed about a couple of ti,mes, even started a thread about it and wrote this in the main Symphonic page:

Before ending this short description I feel necessary to say (In order to be strictly accurate) that the term Symphonic is not 100% exact, because these bands very rarely played symphonies and was probably used because the music that influenced the genre was performed by Symphony Orchestras, but it is so widely accepted by the Progressive Rock community that would be absurd and futile for anybody to attempt a change after so much time.

Iván Melgar Morey, Peru 2006

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=4

We publicly said that, but the kid tries to prove he's more prepared than all of us when he didn't even took the time to read what he was talking about.

But it's even worst to use four very loing parragraphs to critoicize Yes, Prog Archives and our rating system is way too much.

Noit every long review has to be good.

The few lines about the album are not bad, even when i don't share his perspective, but to criticize everything using Prog Archives is an abuse.

If he could keep the few lines about the album and the ratuiing, we couldn't do anything, he's entitled to his opinion.

Iván

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 16 2006 at 02:09

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 08:36

Whatever the technical and critical merits of the review,as Iván points out, he is entitled to his opinion.There is nothing inappropriate about it.

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 14:56

Just to get a feel for what is (in)appropriate I'd like some opinion from our moderators on this one.
This review doesn't tell me anything about whether or not Marbles is a good album. Does it stay or does it go?

MARILLION — Marbles

Review by Prog-guru (eddy)

1 stars I feel it's time for me to make My review of this cd. MARILLION hasn't been MARILLION since FISH left.... Steve is too damn ballady, where is the prog. it's like listening to Dean Martin with great musicians but a bad vocalist... Steve take a hint either get the PROG out and get back to what MARILLION stood for when FISH was around or leave the band and sing on some Cruise ship. thats what you have is a pathetic cruise ship or tacky lounge singer.....yes you had some good songs but since the good songs..I love Easter, cover my eyes, hooks in you, and the Uninvited guest. But now MARBLES is so lame.

Edited to add another one that's making me doubt - this is more bashing at Steve Hogarth than an evaluation of the album a.f.a.i.c.t.

MARILLION — Marbles

Review by pyciu

1 stars Having heard Anorakno..something I decided: no more! But after many enthusiastic opinion about "Marbles" I gave them another chance. And my (subjective) opinion is sustained: no more!. I found almost nothing interesting on this album.The only and small exception is "Ocean Cloud". The rest ofe the horribly long album is simply boooring. And of course the main reason is vocal. Please forgive me, but Mr.Hogarth's voice is the one of the least acceptable of many I heard in my life.The magic of Marillion was gone years ago (IMHO it happened after "Seasons End"). It never returned, and for me - it never will. Just one small star for "Ocean Cloud".

There may be two more reviews of the same low quality on the Marbles album, but I got tired of copying. Marillion is not my #1 favourite band, but when I read a review I'd like it to be about the music, not whether or not somebody (dis)likes one of the band members.

Edited by Angelo - June 17 2006 at 15:07

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 16:16

Angelo, we are checking all "old" and "middle age" reviews when the guidelines were more or less loose - but the work is hard and goes slowly. The main problem is to find some reviewers that apparently evaporated (but they may return any time) to inform them their reviews were deleted.

Thankfully, for Marillion's "Marbles" we have still more than 30 valid reviews (reviews with texts, I mean) and the reader may easily sift those with good points, pro or con.

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:00

Atkingani wrote:

Angelo, we are checking all "old" and "middle age" reviews when the guidelines were more or less loose - but the work is hard and goes slowly. The main problem is to find some reviewers that apparently evaporated (but they may return any time) to inform them their reviews were deleted.

Thankfully, for Marillion's "Marbles" we have still more than 30 valid reviews (reviews with texts, I mean) and the reader may easily sift those with good points, pro or con.

Gotcha. Happy hunting in that case Wink

Let me know if I can be of any help.

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:27

Angelo wrote:

Thankfully, for Marillion's "Marbles" we have still more than 30 valid reviews (reviews with texts, I mean) and the reader may easily sift those with good points, pro or con.

Gotcha. Happy hunting in that case Wink

Let me know if I can be of any help.

When an album has more than 15-20 reviews with texts, two or three "old" or "weak" reviews will not be of importance for a reader IMO. He/she can simply not take them in account.

The real issue is when you have an album with few reviews with texts (say less than 5) and two fanboyish or destructive reviews may change the entire overview of that particular work.

Nevertheless, thanks for the helping offer! Star

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Posted: June 18 2006 at 04:58

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Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:04

philippe wrote:

once again:

YES Close to the Edge progressive rock album and reviews

Symphonic Prog
(Studio Album, 1972)

YES "Close to the Edge"
Review (Permanent link) by s d @ 8:12:56 AM EST, 10/4/2005

I am sick and tired of listening to you old folk talk about how you don't enjoy quality acts such as Dream Theater. One reviewer said it's not to his taste...ok then that's fine. So let me have my say now. If i want to fall asleep or have a good laugh, I'll listen to Yes or Genesis or Pink Floyd (etc). C'mon you oldies...this music is not as great as you all say it is. I am a 25 year old bachelor of music composition graduate and have been playing the keyboard, guitar and drums for a little over 10 yrs, so I AM a musician, unlike most of you. But instead of going into a lengthy essay about why this music is just plain boring, I'll just do what so many of you people do and say 'it's not to my taste'. So there you have it, I voiced my opinion and I don't care if you don't care but I am honest to God when I say that crappy old school prog rock bores me to tears and no matter how many times I listen to Yes' 'Close to the Edge', I will never understand why you guys get boners over it. The music is nothing earth shattering. But it's fine, if you oldies get so excited and this sorta stuff makes your hair stand up...well that's fine...but seriously now, just make sure you know there are educated musicians like myself who simply find it all boring.

Steve.

This person is irritating me!!!!

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Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:24

I wonder how the guy really feels...

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Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:30

How frustrated must you get before submitting this? He'll get his portion of this in 30 years time, when my grandsons favourite band is listed on PA LOL

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 17:19

Old review... disappeared a long time.

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Posted: June 20 2006 at 05:03

RUSH — Hemispheres
Review by crumble_soul (Lucas)

5 stars Simply astonishing. The instrumental track, La Villa Strangiato, is probably the best I've ever heard actually. There is also a wonderful and very surprising calm part in the first song, at about 12'. To sum up, it's a truly amazing experience, such as 2112.

Under 50 words. Evil Smile

(and tasteless;I know from experience that euforia makes me write like mad)

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Posted: June 20 2006 at 09:34

Agreed, Rico!

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Posted: June 20 2006 at 19:28

I have just noticed this one:

RUSH — Vapor Trails

Review by anjeeg98

1 stars I agree with an earlier review... Their best since PRESTO. This record is adventurous, heavy yet melodic and totally unique. A real step forward for Rush---the epitome of progressive music. I missed the guitar solos as Alex is one of the very best---but the record is amazing. Like any good prog CD it DOES take a few listens to apreciate. My favs are:

Out of the Cradle Ceiling Unlimited Secret Touch Earthshine Nocturne Vapor Trail Freeze

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He obviously forgot he needed to apply a star rating....

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Posted: June 20 2006 at 19:32

Handling with, Tony!

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Posted: June 21 2006 at 06:05

I'm sorry,I'm really sorry for making this case again,but Andrea's latest is almost incoherent. Pinch

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Posted: June 21 2006 at 08:59

That's the one.... Unfortunately Rico is right, this is next to illegible - even for me, who share his native language. I'm sorry too, because he's otherwise a great person. Cry

RENAISSANCE — Live at Carnegie Hall
Review by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador)

5 stars LIVE FROM RENAISSANCE

Why does it exist this live? For to make us dream...

All perfect tense in this live. Really. From a splendid Annie Haslm (not only like voice...) to the music to the orchestra! There is not a superior piece to another one. I cite however the Medieval macic of "Can You Understand", thetwo excellent Rock "Carpet Of The Sun and "Running Hard" (almost Hard Rock in certain moments...), "Ocean Gypsy" and the whole 2nd CD ("Scheherazade" because sets to Arabic music and "Ashes Are Burning" because magical). Where it is present the orchestra is easy to excite itself. And, sincerely, the excite me alone to take in hand this authentic jewelry.

In the Symphonic Sweet Emotional Prog... The sole masterpiece without age.

For always yours, Mandrakeroot.

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Posted: June 21 2006 at 09:09

It's obviously not a case of him expressing himself that way,as normally.I have read several others reviews in which his language problems are very moderate and normal.Here however...

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Posted: June 21 2006 at 09:36

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=81621