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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 18:40
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?

Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.  Go ahead, check it out.  Also, check this out:
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list

That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.  This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.



When one is up against such highly regarded classics, there's no need to feel any persecution.

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5.002332 ratings
QWR = 4.9999
The Problem Of Pain: Part 1
 Torman Maxt

Progressive Metal
Studio, 2007
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4.63 | 1647 ratings
QWR =
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Say Cheese, Christmas With Marillion
Marillion

Neo Prog
Promo, 2000
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4.62 | 2165 ratings
QWR = 4.6006
Merry Christmas From The Morse Family
Neal Morse
Symphonic Prog
Promo , 2003
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4
4.61 | 2102 ratings
QWR = 4.5984
The Hits Of Pink Floyd
Darker Side Of The Moon
Psychedelic/Space Rock
Various Artists, 2004
Shop
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4.60 | 1811 ratings
QWR = 4.5768
Concerto in True Minor
True Symphonic Rockestra (with James La Brie, Phil von Gouda, and Earl de Camembert)
Progressive Metal
Studio, 2008
Shop
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4.58 | 2155 ratings
QWR = 4.5658
Sehnsucks
Lacrimosa

Progressive Metal
Studio, 2009
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4.57 | 2235 ratings
QWR = 4.5598
Leibe Mutter...
Heino
Krautrock
Studio, 1966
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4.50 | 1800 ratings
QWR = 4.4856
Under Wraps
Jethro Tull
Prog Folk
Studio, 1984
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4.50 | 1611 ratings
QWR = 4.4849
Tribute to Dream Theater
String Quartet

Various Artists
Studio, 2007
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4.42 | 1683 ratings
QWR = 4.4022
Open Your Eyes
Yes
Symphonic Prog
Studio, 1997
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4.41 | 1527 ratings
QWR = 4.3899
Calling All Stations
Genesis
Symphonic Prog
Studio, 1997
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4.34 | 1522 ratings
QWR =
.35
Love Beach
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Symphonic Prog
Studio, 1978
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13 4.29 | 1528 ratings
QWR = 4.2757
Images And Words
Dream Theater
Progressive Metal
Studio, 1992
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14 4.28 | 1592 ratings
QWR = 4.2675
Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory
Dream Theater
Progressive Metal
Studio, 1999
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:21
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?

Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site.

I find that rather unsurprising. Prog metal isn't necessarily appealing to the average 70s prog fan.

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes.

Also rather unsurprising, considering the other five bands are all classic prog bands that almost anybody here can agree on. Prog metal, on the other hand, is much more specific and will thus polarize more. It has nothing to do with Dream Theater themselves.

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts.  The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts.

1. You're the only one who harps on that, and that's only because you made a shtick out of it because it annoys people.
2. They're not hated around here. A band whose highest-rated album is at 4.29 isn't hated. 4.29 is a very high rating.
3. Nothing destroys your credibility more than using the word "hater", except maybe the "you're all just jealous" and the "you all just don't understand it" argument. Observe progbethyname's post above for how it makes you sound like a desperate fanboy who can't defend his object of obsession with a good argument.

On a lighter note (because this thread needs more humor), gotta love the random Heino album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:27
Everybody needs a little Heino now and again. It's a universal truth carved in stone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:32
Carved in Stone was an album by Shadow Gallery - MUCH better than Dream Theatre!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:35
You're projecting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:40
No, I'm just a sardonic a****le. I actually prefer Dream Theater's Awake to Shadow Gallery's...anything. Not by much. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:43
My fave is also Awake.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:50
On a good day I'd give Awake a hearty ****/*****. Nothing mind-blowing (though Space-Dye Vest came really close when I was a dumb teenager). Certainly a great album I'm glad to have listened to.

As for ELP - I feel similarly toward their debut - a hearty four stars. Nothing mind-blowing (though Take a Pebble came close when I was a young teenager).  Stars are meaningless.

As for Styx - f**k styx! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:51
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Everybody needs a little Heino now and again. It's a universal truth carved in stone.
You can't hide the Heino, as the Hanson Brothers once said.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 19:52
Originally posted by Andy Webb Andy Webb wrote:

^Fantastic LOL
I heartily agree. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:00
I accidentally bought Shadow Gallery's Room IV back in my "judge an album by its cover" phase. I don't like it and I never listen to it.

By the way, this may be my favorite thread on PA right now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:05
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


this may be is absolutely my favorite thread on PA right now.

LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:10
What were we talking about? I mean before all the DT maths and Shadow Galleries.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:10
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

What were we talking about? I mean before all the DT maths and Shadow Galleries.


Marmite, I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:13
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

What were we talking about? I mean before all the DT maths and Shadow Galleries.
Marmite, I think.



Am I reading Marmite correctly?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:15
Only you can answer that question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:20
That all sounds highly profound, but the time here is far too late for me to be pondering Marmite at a progressive rock site, when I have to get up early and throw children about at work.
Sleep tight people. I am heading for the pillows.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:24
Nighty-night, David. Hug

Hey, Logan, what was that list of albums you displayed in the beginning of this page? What do they have in common?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 20:40
Had something to do with Dream Theater and Joe Cocker - huh? Whack for my daddio!
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