Men only?

Starette wrote: Progslut wrote: Remember BON JOVI???! Sold over hundred million albums??? Says it all!!! ...who do you think bought those albums?? Definitely NOT men! Women buy music after they `ve checked out the guys on the cover...   Funny you say that...my ex LOVES Bon Jovi. Mind you- this is my ex who also said 'that's so gay' when I tried to introduce him to Prog Rock. Oh the Irony!!!

Hey, I'm living proof that one can go from extreme Bon Jovi fandom (in my teens, mind you) to embracing the deep waters of prog!

And still not completely abandon Bon Jovi down the road

I knew I was in luck when I started dating a woman who had KC "Beat".  I married her.

She's not much of a proggie, but at least she has some basics! ;)

I've met girls who like yes and floyd..

and a cute one who likes Bela Fleck (sort of out there)

lacroix wrote: Hmmm interesting statements. So what does that say about a female who loves prog?? That she not very feminine??? Here is one strong, self willed, AND feminine prog metal lover, that doesn´t really care about what others think of my musical preferences

 I commend you on that quite heartily as I admire your determination in NOT allowing the depressing feelings that this conversation has given me to get through to you- as a lady.

Me....I'm depressed...People: the thoughts that my mind has given a chance to rise as a result of contemplating on this topic have made me SAD to be a GIRL!  Logical reason= not known. Probably just a rush of estrogen....GAH! see what I mean????

*cries and listens to Nightwish and Curved Air to try and heal the wounds.*

I know why prog doesn't appeal to most women... they get easily bored, and they're not fond of complexity in music.

I'm so lucky to be a man.

Prodigal wrote: I know why prog doesn't appeal to most women... they get easily bored, and they're not fond of complexity in music. I'm so lucky to be a man.

shut up shut up shut uP!  (...don't take my apparant anger seriously by the way. I just realized, that you wrote 'most' in bold, too late.)

It's ok now Bob Greece- I'm over the weirdo 'why did I have to be a girl?' phase. As i said before: Estrogen! And quite ashamed of myself for that matter too . I actually think this is a great topic you started- certainly gave rise to interesting conversations.

I guess we can boil it down now: Women are different in the sense that their subconcious mind focuses on the emotional human-sphere. (s'cuse me if it seems I'm talking philosophical bulls*t: I've been typing up an essay, for the past 12 hours, on ancient greek vase painting. Fun fun fun  ) And because women focus on emotions, they tend to talk about them more with others. Not only that but us girls learnt to do that culturally through the ages. Men are out- we're stuck at home. What can we do? TALK!  (Nobody hates Social Anthropology more than me.) Whereas it's a well known fact that men tend to be more closed-up. So, yep, you're right when you said that this music is an outlet for men....person who posted before me that I don't know the name of because I can't be bothered looking it up but it begins with 'H'.

The perfect human is a balance between these two things. The perfect human is a hermaphrodite-son-of-gods, androgenous, asexual creature. So we should all be happy with what we have to be happy with.  

.............What the f*k am I going on about?!

That's all I had to say: an apology, a suggested conclusion and a goodbye. I had better go to sleep now before hurt myself.

Bilek wrote: I don't really know what's going on for the last 4 pages, but one fact also drew my attention: Not only women don't give an ear to prog at all, you won't also find many women musicians in prog scene. I believe there's even more women on metal stages!

Yes, you're right. It is quite difficult to understand.

Bilek wrote: The only thing that bothers me about women not being involved in prog is that I have difficulty in listening to prog at home while my girlfriend is with me! Thankfully I made her like some "lighter" pieces, such as JM Jarre, some Kraftwerk and little bit of Can! God help me with it. (At least I have headphones at work so that I can listen to music 8 hours a day)

I don't think you'll ever get her to like the avant-garde stuff. Well, 8 hours a day is pretty good - it's a lot more than I manage (headphones give me earache!).

Hibou wrote: Flip_Stone wrote: And who knows, maybe those long guitar solos, keyboard solos, and odd drum patterns appeal to something in the inner parts of men. Hey, maybe Flip_Stone is on to something, here. It’s a well-known fact that females freely discuss their feelings whereas guys tend to keep to themselves. Who knows, maybe prog is a way for guys to get in touch with their inner selves?   I (a female) don’t exactly fit the typical female image when it comes to “talking it out” (I’ve been told this often enough to know). When life is rough, instead of grabbing the phone and babbling away, I shut myself in, strap the headphones on, put an album in my CD player and blast away for a couple of hours. It feels great!

Is that a biological or is it cultural fenomena? If the later, is it just western culture?

As Starette said: men being out hunting alone whilst women are at home together this seems to be a very  old cultural fenomen which then can be seen throughout many different cultures. Today, at least in the richer countries both men and women get to work (Canned Heat - Let's work together). This would mean that someday if we continue to go the the job women will at last start listening more to prog. (This theory sucks, I don't understand it myself.)

 but perhaps you guys are just messing arround with wrong girls? there are a lot of them interested in prog. and i know many such girls. and men have nothing to do with the fact that i like prog. well, maybe - i won't deny - those were men who showed (discovered) me two of my most favourite bands, king crimson and pain of salvation, still there are women too (for jethro, e.g.) who have been my "teachers" .and lots for my education in this field i'm doing my self.

I think this site would be a considerably poorer place without our female forum regulars, and I think they all deserve a huge round of applause for putting up with all the testosterone...