SR V: To boldly go where no room has gone before

You're the same age as me, Harry. Although I think you have me by a few months.

cacho wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: cacho wrote: ^no, I'm not  a man of production either, In Rock's production is pretty bad too, but still it rocks like hell. Gypsy, for me it doesn't as I suppose it had back in the 70's, however great riff.... Fair enough... I like raw production for some reason... I suppose it gives me a bit more of a feel that I'm making my own interpretation of the music and not just what the producer's feeding me. I mean, great production (by, say, Brian Eno) is great production and there are some albums which are increasingly becoming just a joy to listen to for that alone, but I think my definition off 'bad' production is production which doesn't, for me, mesh with the sound and ideas of the album, rather than production which clouds the exact musical content a bit. So, for instance, I've never liked Rush's (finds better example) Jethro Tull's production after, say, 73 or so, all that much. It's perfectly nice, it just never does anything for the material other than get through the musical content, whereas, say, the early Genesis recordings, Trespass and especially Nursery Cryme are really shrouded in some sort of mystery and nice English-folklore feel from that very loose and atmospheric production. I completely understand, I love Trespass' and Nursery Cryme's production for the exact thing you've said. As well as Pawn Hearts' production. But in the case of hard rock, I've never find not-that-good prodruction something that adds mystery nor anything... I'm not expecting perfect production either, just a production that, for me of course, doesn't sound dated after many years...

for the bolded part.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: cacho wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: cacho wrote: ^no, I'm not  a man of production either, In Rock's production is pretty bad too, but still it rocks like hell. Gypsy, for me it doesn't as I suppose it had back in the 70's, however great riff.... Fair enough... I like raw production for some reason... I suppose it gives me a bit more of a feel that I'm making my own interpretation of the music and not just what the producer's feeding me. I mean, great production (by, say, Brian Eno) is great production and there are some albums which are increasingly becoming just a joy to listen to for that alone, but I think my definition off 'bad' production is production which doesn't, for me, mesh with the sound and ideas of the album, rather than production which clouds the exact musical content a bit. So, for instance, I've never liked Rush's (finds better example) Jethro Tull's production after, say, 73 or so, all that much. It's perfectly nice, it just never does anything for the material other than get through the musical content, whereas, say, the early Genesis recordings, Trespass and especially Nursery Cryme are really shrouded in some sort of mystery and nice English-folklore feel from that very loose and atmospheric production. I completely understand, I love Trespass' and Nursery Cryme's production for the exact thing you've said. As well as Pawn Hearts' production. But in the case of hard rock, I've never find not-that-good prodruction something that adds mystery nor anything... I'm not expecting perfect production either, just a production that, for me of course, doesn't sound dated after many years... for the bolded part.

I've recently been weening (/weaning?) myself off the 'dated' thing. It's never been a huge bother to me, but learning to ignore the 'sounds like it's from the 60s/80s' thing has increased my appreciation of some bands quite a lot (particularly The Beach Boys). To be fair, I actually sort of like the 80s sound, it's the 60s one that's proved difficult to appreciate.

It's somewhat odd that an artist like Hendrix still sounds fresh to me while Opeth have a fairly tame and sterile vibe. It works for them, though.


Edited by TGM: Orb - May 14 2009 at 17:16

Finally!!!
The trailer for The Road
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810037227/video/13468775/

I'm here.

Is there no Alex around?

Henry Plainview wrote: Yes Kos that does make me feel a little better. Rob the only advice i can give to you is that being adrift for a year or two is pretty much the worst decision ever.

Taken. I have a uni place lined up next year if I don't mess up the exams slightly badly, so that should be alright.

Ricochet wrote: Is there no Alex around?

I'm here, but only for a few minutes I think.

MIRAGE FTW

I was adrift for two years and I turned out fine...

Hey June. I would stick around to talk, but I think I'm going to go play Mario Party 8 with my folks. I'll be back right after that though.

See you soon!