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Equality 7-2521 
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 Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:22 |
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Supermarkets can't even sell it up here.
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thellama73
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:24 |
 Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well said I think that clears things up. I agree with what you said about Christianity in the law.
I still have some issues with Israel's laws which aren't resolved by your clarification, but I see no reason to go into it here. |
I'll give you a reason: the atheist thread is only thirty pages behind us! We can't let them beat us, now can we?
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:25 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Supermarkets can't even sell it up here. |
PA does have some crazy alcohol laws. But then again I can't buy alcohol in supermarkets here either...
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:26 |
thellama73 wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well said I think that clears things up. I agree with what you said about Christianity in the law.
I still have some issues with Israel's laws which aren't resolved by your clarification, but I see no reason to go into it here. |
I'll give you a reason: the atheist thread is only thirty pages behind us! We can't let them beat us, now can we?
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Don't care for all the religious debate, but shall bump because yes....keep those heathens down below!!!
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:26 |
thellama73 wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well said I think that clears things up. I agree with what you said about Christianity in the law.
I still have some issues with Israel's laws which aren't resolved by your clarification, but I see no reason to go into it here. |
I'll give you a reason: the atheist thread is only thirty pages behind us! We can't let them beat us, now can we?
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I'd rather rant about privatizing fire companies instead. Surely the ensuing T rage will fill about 10 pages?
Though if emergency measures are ever needed to keep our lead I'll be glad to filibuster with anything.
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thellama73
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:26 |
The craziest one I heard was when I was living in New York. Liquor stores weren't allowed to sell mixers, so if I wanted a gin and tonic I had to go to a liquor store to buy gin and then to a separate grocery store to buy tonic. That makes no sense! 
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:27 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Supermarkets can't even sell it up here. |
I grew up in NC and all liquor had to be sold through the ABC store (a clever way to overprice and tax more).
Down here, we have independent liquor stores. Supermarkets can sell booze but only if they have an alcove with a separate entrance and exit. No big deal I guess. Low-alcohol liquors (like Irish Cream) can be sold with the wines.
 Damn...and my birthday's coming up too?
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:28 |
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And that's a damn Diet Coke in that Jesus koozie. Can't fool me.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:29 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well said I think that clears things up. I agree with what you said about Christianity in the law.
I still have some issues with Israel's laws which aren't resolved by your clarification, but I see no reason to go into it here. |
I'll give you a reason: the atheist thread is only thirty pages behind us! We can't let them beat us, now can we?
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I'd rather rant about privatizing fire companies instead. Surely the ensuing T rage will fill about 10 pages?
Though if emergency measures are ever needed to keep our lead I'll be glad to filibuster with anything. |
WHAT!? And I think booze is always a good filibuster.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:31 |
thellama73 wrote:
The craziest one I heard was when I was living in New York. Liquor stores weren't allowed to sell mixers, so if I wanted a gin and tonic I had to go to a liquor store to buy gin and then to a separate grocery store to buy tonic. That makes no sense!
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Ugh. I wouldn't hate the state so much if it could at least make sense once in a blue moon.
PA liquor laws do nothing except establish an artificial monopoly so that the state can overcharge and establish a de facto tax. Government's love to use people's vices as revenue generation because people are less likely to show public disdain for government trying to curtail "bad" behavior.
If you don't support alcohol regulations you're a drunk and who cares what you think?
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:35 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
If you don't support alcohol regulations you're a drunk and who cares what you think? |
Wut wuz that, man?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:36 |
JJLehto wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well said I think that clears things up. I agree with what you said about Christianity in the law.
I still have some issues with Israel's laws which aren't resolved by your clarification, but I see no reason to go into it here. |
I'll give you a reason: the atheist thread is only thirty pages behind us! We can't let them beat us, now can we?
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I'd rather rant about privatizing fire companies instead. Surely the ensuing T rage will fill about 10 pages?
Though if emergency measures are ever needed to keep our lead I'll be glad to filibuster with anything. |
WHAT!?
And I think booze is always a good filibuster.
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I want more states to drop legislation which forbids private firefighting companies to enter the market. Then I want public firefighting companies eliminated entirely.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:38 |
I went to Georgia in may with a couple of frie ds and tries to have some beers on a sunday afternoon. We were denied that. There's no other way to justify such a measure but on religious grounds.
Alas, in my country the stupid government has enacted a similar ordinance, supposedly to combat crime  .
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:40 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I want more states to drop legislation which forbids private firefighting companies to enter the market. Then I want public firefighting companies eliminated entirely. |
Cool. Let's argue about this!
*rabblerousing*
Query:
Would private firefighters be permitted to pick and choose what homes and buildings they hose down?
Would private firefighters be able to increase charges after saving a home or would a contract with each household on # of pets saved, # of humans saved, etc. and an appropriate and agreed-upon fee be established beforehand?
Would women still find them attractive?
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:41 |
The T wrote:
I went to Georgia in may with a couple of frie ds and tries to have some beers on a sunday afternoon. We were denied that. There's no other way to justify such a measure but on religious grounds.
Alas, in my country the stupid government has enacted a similar ordinance, supposedly to combat crime . |
Did you eat them with honey mustard, T?  
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:43 |
The T wrote:
Alas, in my country the stupid government has enacted a similar ordinance, supposedly to combat crime . |
Yeah there was a push to forbid Chinese stores from opening up in Philadelphia to fight crime. The argument was that they open up in black neighborhoods, unfairly prey on them, force them to buy cheap food and booze, and cause an increase in violent crime.
Thankfully that died out as serious discussion.
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:44 |
The T wrote:
I went to Georgia in may with a couple of frie ds and tries to have some beers on a sunday afternoon. We were denied that. There's no other way to justify such a measure but on religious grounds.
Alas, in my country the stupid government has enacted a similar ordinance, supposedly to combat crime . |
Seriously, maybe local government officials think they can get more people into church if alcohol sales are disallowed on Sundays.
Not likely though.
If they want to do that, they should outlaw sleeping, not booze.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:45 |
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Private fire companies?
MAAAN YOU CRAZY!
Why?
*runs away*
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:48 |
Epignosis wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I want more states to drop legislation which forbids private firefighting companies to enter the market. Then I want public firefighting companies eliminated entirely. |
Cool. Let's argue about this!
*rabblerousing*
Query:
Would private firefighters be permitted to pick and choose what homes and buildings they hose down?
Would private firefighters be able to increase charges after saving a home or would a contract with each household on # of pets saved, # of humans saved, etc. and an appropriate and agreed-upon fee be established beforehand?
Would women still find them attractive?
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Probably not because they won't earn bloated state paychecks.
That would depend on the company. For the private ones that exist the way I understand that they operate is to charge a monthly fee for their services. Much as home security system providers do, this is just a flat rate, perhaps effected by relative fire danger in your area. I'll leave it to the market to sort out the most efficient and desirable contracts.
Well they would obviously be contractually bound to hose down houses they cover. Now houses they don't cover: 1) They would not be obligated to put out such fires, 2) The more interesting question is would they be allowed to hose down a house that doesn't have them contracted if they have the desire to do so? I would think they do not without permission of the house owner.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 19:51 |
JJLehto wrote:
Private fire companies?
MAAAN YOU CRAZY!
Why?
*runs away*
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Why not? Why would we not at least allow outside competition?
Many places operate with volunteer firehouses. Surely they can work with privatized ones?
It will lower costs, reduce response time, increase efficiency, and allow people who don't want the service to opt out.
In my home we don't smoke, don't light candles, are incredibly anal about open flames, have a fire detector in every room, and 3 fire extinguishers in the house. Why should I subsidize a family who is careless about their fire control and much more likely to have a home fire when I take so much care of my own home?
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