Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The Ranting Room
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedThe Ranting Room

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 100101102103104 117>
Author
Message
mystic fred View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 13 2006
Location: Londinium
Status: Offline
Points: 4252
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2010 at 02:43
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Can I have a general rant at drivers who cut the corner while you are approaching a junction?

They are turning right from their road and as you swerve to avoid them they look at you as if you are in their way!!!!

They cut onto my side of the road!!!!!!!Angry
.
 
nearly every driver behaves like that in a car...that's why i like driving my Minibus......they keep their distance Evil Smile
 
 
.
Prog Archives Tour Van
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2011 at 19:46
British Gas (and Electric)
 
I'm having this minor (and oh-so trivial) run-in with British Gas marketing department. A few weeks ago I got fed-up with their unsolicited telephone marketing calls offering me discounts on dual-fuel tariffs so I went to the British Gas website looking for a means of removing my name and number from their marketing list. The only thing I found was a general "complaints" form, which I duly filled in and had to provide a telephone number before the form would "submit" itself which was a little ironic since given the nature of my complaint. I also had to provide a valid email address which is fair enough I guess, for communication to take place it is necessary to provide a conduit for verbal exchange to occur and email is a far more reliable medium than telephone in many respects. Also given that I was initially requesting that all unsolicited telephonic sales communication from British Gas to myself could perhaps be reduced in number, email is indeed preferable to telephone. Still, at least the email acknowledging my complaint began with the line:
 
"Thank you for your recent email.  I’ve tried to telephone you today but unfortunately you were not available."
 
Which I found amusing, but not as amusing as the email that arrived nine hours later:
 
"You recently gave us your email address so we thought we would let you know that..."
 
For those that don't know British Gas, they are a utility company that has two products, Natural Gas, one they "manufacture" and Electricity, one they simply sell-on. So the choices on offer to me are basically four: I can buy the product that is an inherent part of the company name, and to be honest the one they are famous for; or I can buy the product that they are not famous for, yet forms an essential part of the utilities requirement for my domestic domicile if only for providing illumination on dark winter nights since the abject failure of gaslight to be a viable source of lighting in the twenty-first century (and most  of the twentieth as I recall); or I can buy both products simultaneously; or I can elect to pay someone else for the privilege of pretending supplying these utilities. It's that last bit that irks me - I can pay someone else but it is still British Gas that physically pumps the natural gas from the storage tanks down the pipes into my house and it is still The Southern Electricity Board who feeds the electricity from the national grid down the wires into my fuse box. So while we have "deregulated" something, I'm still in the dark (reading Fanny By Gaslight) as to what it is we have in fact deregulated, but never mind, I'm sure hat intelligences greater than our own do understand and with intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic regard our fuel-bills with envious eyes and slowly, and surely, draw their plans against us. Laaa-ooooooo!
 
Thus, faced with four relatively simple choices the number of possible answers follows a similar mathematical relationship that by some quirk of logic also results in the number four. From my perspective this is not a one in four chance of guessing the right answer, once I select an option that is my final choice, no need to phone a friend or ask the audience. Choosing anything but option 2 puts British Gas into Mrs Doyle mode "You'll have some duel-fuel tarrif... are you sure you don't want any? Aw go on, you'll have some. Go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on GO ON! "
What?
Back to Top
Mushroom Sword View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 28 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 426
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2011 at 19:58
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

And another thing -

Unsolicited sales calls on my mobile phone!

If I want to buy something / change tariff / change company / do or buy anything, in fact...

I'll ++++ing well call you!

OK?

Now.....

OFF!


Technically that's called, "cold-calling" and is illegal in America. I have no idea if you're from America or not... just sayin'
Back to Top
Henry Plainview View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
Status: Offline
Points: 16715
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2011 at 20:18
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

And another thing -

Unsolicited sales calls on my mobile phone!

If I want to buy something / change tariff / change company / do or buy anything, in fact...

I'll ++++ing well call you!

OK?

Now.....

OFF!
 

Technically that's called, "cold-calling" and is illegal in America. I have no idea if you're from America or not... just sayin'

Jim's location says South England...and it is not illega in America.
if you own a sodastream i hate you
Back to Top
chopper View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 20030
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 06:00
We registered with the TPS a few years ago (http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/) and it does stop the majority of cold calls (unless you're a customer that is, so it doesn't stop Virgin phoning us all the time).

It doesn't stop all calls but then you can threaten them with legal action because you're registered with the TPS (if they've heard of it, that is).

It also doesn't stop the people who ring up to tell me I have a virus on my PC but then I pretend that I don't know anything about computers and keep them on the phone for ages.
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 07:16
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

We registered with the TPS a few years ago (http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/) and it does stop the majority of cold calls (unless you're a customer that is, so it doesn't stop Virgin phoning us all the time).

It doesn't stop all calls but then you can threaten them with legal action because you're registered with the TPS (if they've heard of it, that is).

It also doesn't stop the people who ring up to tell me I have a virus on my PC but then I pretend that I don't know anything about computers and keep them on the phone for ages.
That's really the problem with the TPS scheme - it doesn't stop BT, British Gas or AOL from cold calling because I am a customer of theirs and those are the three main villains.
 
I was contacted by an opt-out scheme a few months back after I complained to BT about their cold-calling (I asked if I should put them on my Friends & Family list as they called me so often). We reached an impasse when guy on the other end of the phone wanted my credit card details as confirmation of who I was: "You know who I am because you phoned me..." "we just need your credit card details to confirm who you are..." "I know who I am and I don't give those kind of details over the 'phone, that's the whole point of opting out, I don't buy anything over the phone..." "if we can confirm who you are then you'll be put on the list and you won't be called by 'these people'..." "I don't want to block 'these people', I just want to block BT from trying to sell me stuff I don't want..." "If you just confirm the credit card you pay your BT bill with then we can continue..." "But I don't pay BT by credit card..." *click*
 
BT are indeed my favourite of all the cold-callers, they even pestered me when I was ex-directory: "Why are you calling me? I pay you to be ex-directory to stop these kind of calls..." "Then you can be assured that only BT will call you..." "But I don't want BT to call me, if you've something to sell, send me a letter..." "But we're BT..." "And if being ex-directory doesn't stop BT from calling me then there is little point me paying you to be ex-directory is there?..." "we only contact you with offers to save you money on your bill..." "My call charges are less than the line-rental, if you want to save me money the only way to do that is reduce the line rental charge, or remove me from the ex-directory list..." *click*
 
The PC scam one are easy to spot and I do admit having fun with them - I was called by Microsoft Security Response Centre once over a 'Report this to Microsoft'  report I'd apparently sent them: "So, which App did I report?..." "The one you sent the report for..." "You must know which one, it's part of the report message details..." "We have several registered to you..." "Really, I never send any reports..." "Someone in your household did..." "I don't think that is possible." *silence* "So how did you get my telephone number?..." "It is included in the report..." "No it isn't" *more silence* "You're not really Microsoft are you?" *click*
 
 
What?
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34055
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 07:38
I don't know what Xenophobia is Angry so i don't know when I step over that boarder (RANT RANT RANT RANT) Pinch
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 08:20
The British Gas call that started all this was also amusing in its own right: "As a loyal British Gas customer you are entitled to a fantastic money saving offer..." "Okay, tell me more...." "By switching your Electricity supply to us we can offer you a saving on your quarterly bill and give you a £35 cash back payment..." "Interesting, if I don't switch will you send me £17.50 cash back and give me a still discount on my Gas bill?.." "No, you need to switch to duel-fuel tariff to take advantage of this offer..." "But I don't want to switch, I'm happy knowing that an expert in the field of electricity supply is supplying me with my electricity and an expert in the field of gas supply is supplying me my gas. Mixing Gas and Electric doesn't sound safe to me..." "The electricity board will still be supplying your electricity and we will still supply your gas, you just pay one bill and that saves you money..." "So if I switch then you discount my bill and give me £35 cash back...." "Yes" "But if I don't switch I don't get any cash back and you charge me a higher rate for my Gas supply..." "....erm, well, no, we continue to charge you our standard tariff..." "So the £35 you give to people who do switch comes from the extra money I pay you to supply my gas..." "...the £35 cash back comes from the savings we make by offering customers duel-fuel tarrifs..." "Oh, so it is cheaper for you to supply gas and electric than it is to supply just gas." "yes, the consolidated bill reduces admin and associated costs" "Sorry, but I don't see how, you don't incur the admin costs of processing my electricity bill at the moment and the admin costs of processing a duel-fuel bill must be higher for you..." "...the costs are also cheaper for you because you are only paying one bill instead of two..." "But I pay both by direct debit, the admin costs for me are negligible..." "Don't you want to save money on your fuel bills?" "No." "Everyone wants to save money and this offer could save you £75 on your annual fuel costs...." "If you want to save me money, just reduce what you charge me for my gas supply... and send me a £17.50 cash back for being a loyal British Gas customer." "You need to switch to duel-fuel tariff to take advantage of this offer..." "Does Southern Electric have a similar duel-fuel offer" "Yes" "Okay, I think I'll go online and see what they offer." *click*
What?
Back to Top
Mushroom Sword View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 28 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 426
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 22:10
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

And another thing -

Unsolicited sales calls on my mobile phone!

If I want to buy something / change tariff / change company / do or buy anything, in fact...

I'll ++++ing well call you!

OK?

Now.....

OFF!
 

Technically that's called, "cold-calling" and is illegal in America. I have no idea if you're from America or not... just sayin'

Jim's location says South England...and it is not illega in America.


I'm pretty sure it's illegal to cold call to a cell phone. Thanks for that link, but it does say it's illegal in England, and so, could he report it? I know this is off-topic. Sorry.
Back to Top
The Dark Elf View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 13091
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 22:13
Just think of the savings you as a consumer could have if they eliminated the cold -calling staff.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Back to Top
ExittheLemming View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11420
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2011 at 02:49
This one really rips my knitting:

Q: Do you have a spare cigarette at all?
A: Of course, thank god they sell them in packs of 11 and 21

Back to Top
Chris S View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: June 09 2004
Location: Front Range
Status: Offline
Points: 7028
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2011 at 03:25
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The British Gas call that started all this was also amusing in its own right: "As a loyal British Gas customer you are entitled to a fantastic money saving offer..." "Okay, tell me more...." "By switching your Electricity supply to us we can offer you a saving on your quarterly bill and give you a £35 cash back payment..." "Interesting, if I don't switch will you send me £17.50 cash back and give me a still discount on my Gas bill?.." "No, you need to switch to duel-fuel tariff to take advantage of this offer..." "But I don't want to switch, I'm happy knowing that an expert in the field of electricity supply is supplying me with my electricity and an expert in the field of gas supply is supplying me my gas. Mixing Gas and Electric doesn't sound safe to me..." "The electricity board will still be supplying your electricity and we will still supply your gas, you just pay one bill and that saves you money..." "So if I switch then you discount my bill and give me £35 cash back...." "Yes" "But if I don't switch I don't get any cash back and you charge me a higher rate for my Gas supply..." "....erm, well, no, we continue to charge you our standard tariff..." "So the £35 you give to people who do switch comes from the extra money I pay you to supply my gas..." "...the £35 cash back comes from the savings we make by offering customers duel-fuel tarrifs..." "Oh, so it is cheaper for you to supply gas and electric than it is to supply just gas." "yes, the consolidated bill reduces admin and associated costs" "Sorry, but I don't see how, you don't incur the admin costs of processing my electricity bill at the moment and the admin costs of processing a duel-fuel bill must be higher for you..." "...the costs are also cheaper for you because you are only paying one bill instead of two..." "But I pay both by direct debit, the admin costs for me are negligible..." "Don't you want to save money on your fuel bills?" "No." "Everyone wants to save money and this offer could save you £75 on your annual fuel costs...." "If you want to save me money, just reduce what you charge me for my gas supply... and send me a £17.50 cash back for being a loyal British Gas customer." "You need to switch to duel-fuel tariff to take advantage of this offer..." "Does Southern Electric have a similar duel-fuel offer" "Yes" "Okay, I think I'll go online and see what they offer." *click*
haha...just like selling arms to Libya....a different spin to the aisle of plenty
<font color=Brown>Music - The Sound Librarian

...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR]
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2011 at 02:50
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

We registered with the TPS a few years ago (http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/) and it does stop the majority of cold calls (unless you're a customer that is, so it doesn't stop Virgin phoning us all the time). It doesn't stop all calls but then you can threaten them with legal action because you're registered with the TPS (if they've heard of it, that is).It also doesn't stop the people who ring up to tell me I have a virus on my PC but then I pretend that I don't know anything about computers and keep them on the phone for ages.


I could be wrong (it has been known), but I believe the TPS schemes are only (supposedly) legally binding if the call originates from a UK number - with the number of companies now using overseas call centres, they are unaffected by TPS etc.

One little story about overseas call centres... Vicky called one of the directory enquiries numbers to get the phone nujmber of a post office in Swindon (major sized UK town); after a lot of hum-ing & umm-ing, the person asked if Vicky was sure if (a) there was a town called Swindon & (b) if there was a post office there.

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
chopper View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 20030
Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2011 at 06:42
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

We registered with the TPS a few years ago (http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/) and it does stop the majority of cold calls (unless you're a customer that is, so it doesn't stop Virgin phoning us all the time). It doesn't stop all calls but then you can threaten them with legal action because you're registered with the TPS (if they've heard of it, that is).It also doesn't stop the people who ring up to tell me I have a virus on my PC but then I pretend that I don't know anything about computers and keep them on the phone for ages.


I could be wrong (it has been known), but I believe the TPS schemes are only (supposedly) legally binding if the call originates from a UK number - with the number of companies now using overseas call centres, they are unaffected by TPS etc.

One little story about overseas call centres... Vicky called one of the directory enquiries numbers to get the phone nujmber of a post office in Swindon (major sized UK town); after a lot of hum-ing & umm-ing, the person asked if Vicky was sure if (a) there was a town called Swindon & (b) if there was a post office there.
 
Not sure about overseas call centres, but it certainly cuts out about 90% of cold calls.
 
I know someone who phoned his insurance company to report a problem with his chimney. The call centre was in India and they asked him what a chimney was. LOL
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2011 at 06:34
Homoeopathic Milk - what's the point?
 
Considering I dilute the milk in my hot beverage by at least 30:1 a 4% (full) fat milk ends up as 0.13% fat in my beverage, which is something like 0.06gms of fat.
 
If that 0.06gms of fat was made into butter would just about cover the head of a pin (probably), I would have to drink 4200 cups of coffee or tea to consume the equivalent of 250gms (8.8oz) pack of butter. Just writing this post burned off the fat content of at least 16 cups of milked tea.
 
Regardless of this, our work's canteen fridge does not contain any full-fat milk because it is deemed "unhealthy", instead we have half-fat or semi-skimmed milk (2%) and low-fat or skimmed milk (<0.5%) ...
 
Okay, so I can add twice as much semi-skimmed into my cup and achieve the same "taste" and just as importantly... "colour"... but that last bit is important and that's the bit that makes me as narked as fCensoredk in a p*ssed-off kind of way - everyone in the office (including the lo-fat/health-kick/doesmybumlookbiginthis 'diet' nuts who stock the fridge) adds the milk to their tea or coffee until it reaches the desired colour, not desired fat-content, and since it is the emulsified fats that gives milk its opaque colour, they also add twice as much half-fat milk as they would if they had bought full-fat milk in the first place.
 
This is all well and good for the milk suppliers, since they sell twice as much milk at the same price per pint, and as our office gets through two litres of milk per day, five days a week, 52 weeks a year, that's an extra 260ltrs a year.
 
So what?... well - today we ran out of bloody half fat milk and now all we've got is a fridge full of bloody bugger-all fat milk!!! Which, no matter how much of the damn gnat's dribble you tip into your cup, never gets the right colour or taste because it isn't ruddy milk at all: it's 1 molecule of fat suspended in 1000litres of water; it's milk made by serial dilution of water that a cow once looked at for twenty seconds; it's homoeopathic milk that should be sold in 100ml bottles for silly prices to wanabe hippy numpties who think it's a cure for bubonic plague!!!!! (or bucolic plague if you prefer). Angry
 
 
 
All this because someone's bum looked big in a mirror. Ouch
What?
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2011 at 07:14
   

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

All this because someone's bum looked big in a mirror. Ouch


Probably the same kind of person who'd ask the question "does this (enter item of male or female clothing here) make my bum look big?"

No.

The huge amount of fatty & sugary foods you continually shove into your "I-only-have-the-appetite-of-a-bird" pie-hole prior to eating a lettuce leaf & a tomato, and all this followed by the largest packet of crisps in Christendom "ooh-I'm-so-naughty-titter-titter" combined with your exercise regime consisting of sprinting past the greengrocers to get to the bakers... THAT is what makes your bum look big

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2011 at 07:36
I once said ... "your bum would look big in an aircraft hanger" ... just the once mind, and never again.
 
 
then I have that knack of speaking first and thinking later - rushing out of Sainsbury's one evening I accidentally barged into a 6'6" squaddie who was built like a brick outhouse in full camo-gear ... "sorry mate, didn't see you" quipped I...


Edited by Dean - October 13 2011 at 07:37
What?
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2011 at 07:59


I did exactly the same in Devon a couple of weeks ago, this time to a 6'6" lardy lump of a bloke, wearing a bright red jacket


Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
Gamemako View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 31 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1184
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2012 at 23:05
By the Gods, I am miserably sick right now and want to rant about it, but I don't feel well enough and can't type accurately. f**k the flu, man. If I were Hugo Chavez, I'd claim it was a government conspiracy to keep the man down. sh*t's ridiculous. It's 20-f**king-12 and I can barely muster the strength to walk because of a virus that has been around for at least TWENTY-FIVE-HUNDRED GODDAMN YEARS. I'd say we're stuck in the stone age, but it would lack for f**king hyperbole.
Hail Eris!
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 11:29
Sauntering

I am getting hugely fed up with the wobbling classes, the elderly and chavvy youths sauntering across the road, right in front of me, studiously not looking to see if any traffic is approaching, as if it's cool to do so (this last generally does not refer to the elderly - they just do it because they're old... the most you get from them is the fake run ie legs moving faster, body moving slower) & if you do express impatience, by means of a quick parp on the horn (oo-eeer missis) you get a look, supposedly designed to freeze you in your tracks (which usually makes them look even more dim than they patently are) plus a torrent of abuse which would make John Prescott blush.

Thank you - rant over

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 100101102103104 117>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.313 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.