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jean-marie 
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 07:38 |
 I n my opinion steve hillage ( specialy green ) is the key wich opens to ozric world. Why hillage albums are so rarely rewiewed on PA ??It's a question that obsseses me 
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 07:43 |
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What is your poll?
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 07:54 |
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This poll is to be expected when its owner will be promoted to Groupie, I guess...
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snobb
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 08:21 |
OK, I understand now 
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jean-marie
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 08:41 |
There are a few old members on PA who are scornful , pretentious and intolerant but who do you think you are?  VIP?? 
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proggy
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 08:44 |
 jean-marie wrote:
I n my opinion steve hillage ( specialy green ) is the key wich opens to ozric world. Why hillage albums are so rarely rewiewed on PA ??It's a question that obsseses me |
Come to Progressiveears.com and register and start a thread.....There are not as many rules there, the people are more friendly and their are less fanboys....
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 08:54 |
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Green = Fantastic album.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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snobb
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 08:57 |
jean-marie wrote:
There are a few old members on PA who are scornful , pretentious and intolerant but who do you think you are? VIP?? |
Sorry man, I really didn't think nothing wrong. Just didn't find your poll there,so asked.
Than I realized possibly you couldn't start it because of some (new) rules, sorry because of that. The only reason this new rule was accepted is some guys starting multi-accounts for manipulation with votings. Now it's more difficult, that's all.
BTW, it's not a hard job I believe for any newbie to become groupie and to have wider possibilities on site
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snobb
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 09:02 |
proggy wrote:
jean-marie wrote:
I n my opinion steve hillage ( specialy green ) is the key wich opens to ozric world. Why hillage albums are so rarely rewiewed on PA ??It's a question that obsseses me |
Come to Progressiveears.com and register and start a thread.....There are not as many rules there, the people are more friendly and their are less fanboys.... |
It's a bit strange to hear such recommendation from old PA member 
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clarke2001
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 10:50 |
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I love Hillage a lot - he certainly deserves more recognition. But I must admit I'm not too fond of Ozric Tentacles - they sound kinda boring to me.
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 10:59 |
clarke2001 wrote:
I love Hillage a lot - he certainly deserves more recognition. But I must admit I'm not too fond of Ozric Tentacles - they sound kinda boring to me.
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For me OT sound nice, but all their albums long they play one good (but same good) song 
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Progosopher
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 11:49 |
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Steve Hillage scored second only to Steve Wilson in my Those Other Steves poll a few weeks ago, so it seems as if he is well known and respected here on the site, even if there don't seem to be many reviews on his albums. Remember though, he was a member of Gong, for which he may be better known than his solo work. As to his relation to Ozrics, more power to 'em, I say.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 13:43 |
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When i think of Hillage i think GONG,KHAN and his solo works. I agree completely that that OZICS had to have been inspired by his solo works and perhaps "Green" especially. A very talented guitarist.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 13:43 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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jean-marie
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 18:29 |
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I do agree Ozric is a bit monotonous and i prefer hillage but having watched a live dvd , it's clear they're better on stage , it's a real psychedelic show , i remenber it was the same with hawkwind , sometimes boring on record but amazing on stage , i saw them in paris on 1977Ozric could be kind of new Hawkwind
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 19:32 |
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I love Ozric Tentacles a lot - they certainly deserve more recognition. But I
must admit I'm not too fond of Steve Hillage - he sounds kinda boring
to me.
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moshkito
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 20:12 |
jean-marie wrote:
I n my opinion steve hillage ( specialy green ) is the key wich opens to ozric world. Why hillage albums are so rarely rewiewed on PA ??It's a question that obsseses me |
I like both.
Sadly, the Ozric family is down to its last legs and when they lost Champignon (John), they lost the "feel" and the sensual touch that the music had that is terribly lacking right now. Ed has stopped exploring and learning and finding new music ... it is now strictly rock'n'roll music with the midi boards going kinda nuts, in concert venues where you can't hear the keyboards at all ... which makes the music come down to garage band status.
So, if you ask me, Ozric's have lost it, and I don't see that they are making strides in making sure that the venues do not hurt their music.
Hillage, is still going strong and hearing him again with Gong is amazing and far out ... and neat. He has always been experimental and the new version of Gong is almost a dream come true ... remember that one of the best guitar duets in progressive music can be found in Gong's YOU and guess who the two guitarists were. And both of them knowing the massive history they both have and new found appreciation for each other ... is massive and I think the one thing that the Ozrics are missing.
I do not mind the idea that the Ozric's now is the family band ... and while it has nice things on a cd ... they really need to make a call on the quality of their work on the road. My contention is that this has become a secondary band, due to its quality of work.
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clarke2001
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 20:20 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I love Ozric Tentacles a lot - they certainly deserve more recognition. But I
must admit I'm not too fond of Steve Hillage - he sounds kinda boring
to me.
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I have a deja vu.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 04 2010 at 20:28 |
clarke2001 wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I love Ozric Tentacles a lot - they certainly deserve more recognition. But I
must admit I'm not too fond of Steve Hillage - he sounds kinda boring
to me.
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I have a deja vu.
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Posted: November 05 2010 at 04:58 |
proggy wrote:
jean-marie wrote:
I n my opinion steve hillage ( specialy green ) is the key wich opens to ozric world. Why hillage albums are so rarely rewiewed on PA ??It's a question that obsseses me |
Come to Progressiveears.com and register and start a thread.....There are not as many rules there, the people are more friendly and their are less fanboys.... |
Yeah! If you like dealing with a free for all. From Grand Funk Railroad fans to Ange fans. Yeah, that's Progears. In one sense you have fans of Mountain and Grand Funk that have no knowledge of greats like Rory Gallagher but, are ignorant towards the British Blues Boom era, ......in otherwords, Keith Richards who wrote great songs like "Jumpin' Jack Flash", "Ruby Tuesday" etc, has the look of a rest home lunatic and so that equals the word=suck. While loads of members worship Mark Farner and his stupied "Footstompin' Music role. Either that or it's the worship of the almighty epic: "I'm Your Captain".
The older generation of proggy members on P.A. are very cool to converse with. They don't come crawling out of the woodwork and insult everybody as they often do on P.E. In otherwords....there are some pretty blown up egos on P.E. There are musicians on P.E. who feel that their butts do not stink like everyone elses. They come off in a fashion that smells of you, the viewer, kneeling down to kiss their feet. Like they are too good to listen to Jeff Beck? They can't appreciate average Rock music for what it is. Fans on P.E. have in the past, slaughtered an album like Soft Machine Bundles making it seem as if the title itself lacks a high ranking musical level. The problem with egotisitical members such as these is the fact that they can't tell the difference between the beautiful expressive guitar playing of Jeff Beck from the "Rough and Ready album and Rhino from Iron Butterfly. If you are going to be an ego driven insulting type of person, then at least get your history right.
Edited by TODDLER - November 05 2010 at 05:01
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