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Gandalff 
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 04:07 |
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So, this thread is a reaction for, in my opinion, bad done poll:
My question: Which songs or even whole albums from 60´s to 80´s years of 20th century is most influential or most important for the development of Prog Metal and its related subgenres?
Edited by Gandalff - October 14 2010 at 04:12
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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johaneshandjono
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 04:27 |
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I Guess early RUSH albums from the later 70s like AFTK and Hemispheres have a huge influence on Prog Metal...
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 04:29 |
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Oh and King Crimson's RED is quite influential too, with it's heavy rock freakouts...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 04:33 |
 Gandalff wrote:
(Gosh! More propriate message icon would be:)
So, this thread is a reaction for, in my opinion, bad done poll:
My question: Which songs or even whole albums from 60´s to 80´s years of 20th century is most influential or most important for the development of Prog Metal and its related subgenres? |
Why is it a badly done poll? Seems fine to me. 
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sydbarrett2010
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 07:29 |
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black sabbath-black sabbath or paranoid
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sleeper
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 07:56 |
I think there's two questions in there, which prog albums are the big influence on Prog Metal and which metal albums are a big influence on prog metal since the genre is an amalgam of the two.
I think saying Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush, King Crimson, Yes, Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden and Metallica are quite definitely the major influences, with IM, Metallica and Rush being the biggest influences on what most of us know as Prog Metal.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 08:06 |
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^ Rainbow can be added to that fine list.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 09:40 |
All those mentioned with also in the US Van Halen and Riot. In that mid 70s-80's era I think the younger crowd wanted something harder, more thrash, so I think the hard rock of VH and Riot pushed some very early metal into that hard thrash metal.
Lets not forget about across the pond some GREAT early metal.........Saxon, Accept, Scorpions, UFO, Michael Schenker Group, Rainbow.....(those were the days.....)
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 12:27 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
(Gosh! More propriate message icon would be:)
So, this thread is a reaction for, in my opinion, bad done poll:
My question: Which songs or even whole albums from 60´s to 80´s years of 20th century is most influential or most important for the development of Prog Metal and its related subgenres? |
Why is it a badly done poll? Seems fine to me. |
You always must be in opposition to me.  I´ve explained all my reasons in mentioned poll.
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 12:33 |
Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
(Gosh! More propriate message icon would be:)
So, this thread is a reaction for, in my opinion, bad done poll:
My question: Which songs or even whole albums from 60´s to 80´s years of 20th century is most influential or most important for the development of Prog Metal and its related subgenres? |
Why is it a badly done poll? Seems fine to me. |
You always must be in opposition to me. I´ve explained all my reasons in mentioned poll. |
Not true. Stop being angry all the time.
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:03 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
(Gosh! More propriate message icon would be:)
So, this thread is a reaction for, in my opinion, bad done poll:
My question: Which songs or even whole albums from 60´s to 80´s years of 20th century is most influential or most important for the development of Prog Metal and its related subgenres? |
Why is it a badly done poll? Seems fine to me. |
You always must be in opposition to me. I´ve explained all my reasons in mentioned poll. |
Not true. Stop being angry all the time. |
I´m not angry at all. I´m cool all the time.
(Until you´ll begin to nark.) 
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:09 |
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I'll try not to comment on your posts anymore.
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:12 |
It all started with a album called 2112!
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:24 |
JROCHA wrote:
It all started with a album called 2112! |
Yeah it does!
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:35 |
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Well... there is a famous distorted alternate picking riff from Genesis in Dancing with the Moonlit Knight...
I'm sure almost all modern Progressive rock guitarists heard it, then had to learn it.
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:55 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I'll try not to comment on your posts anymore. |
Hurrah!
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 14:08 |
Snow Dog wrote:
JROCHA wrote:
It all started with a album called 2112! |
Yeah it does! |
Fanboyz!!!
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Gandalff
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 14:26 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
JROCHA wrote:
It all started with a album called 2112! |
Yeah it does! |
Fanboyz!!!
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I think Black Sabbath have come before 2112. 
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 21:24 |
Rush, especially Hemispheres or Permanent Waves.
Queensryche's Warning/Mindcrime (though they are called prog metal here, the name wasn't coined for those albums, AFAIK)
Metallica's three albums from RTL to AJFA.
Al Di Meola's Elegant Gypsy album, particularly the track Race with the devil on a Spanish highway.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 21:25 |
Gandalff wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
JROCHA wrote:
It all started with a album called 2112! |
Yeah it does! |
Fanboyz!!!
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I think Black Sabbath have come before 2112. |
But they were a larger influence on metal as such. The tight and technical approach to writing and playing music that is the trademark of most prog metal came from Rush, not Sabbath.
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