I want to hear your thoughts since thay are on the headlines now, I have not made any clear personal opinion about the leaks, but it seams to get widespread attention.

Edited by aginor - July 26 2010 at 14:33

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/wikileaks-drops-90000-secret-war-docs-fingers-pakistan-as-insurgent-ally/

Snow Dog wrote: Whats wikileak?

I love the site. They have lots and lots of great stuff on there. It'll be a huge blow to government transparency and free speech if it gets shut down. 

Guys who do things like this are generally three steps ahead of the law in the first place, plus the American government knows it would be PR poison to go after a group of people dedicated to disclosing the truth. That's not to say they'll leave Wikileaks alone, but they won't crush them with an iron fist either.

Guarantee that the video of US soldiers killing the two Rueters reporters and Iraqi non-combatants is gone.

I like it.
I first heard of it from a prof about that Baghdad video, the one where the US military accidentally kills those reporters.
I havnt been able to see the current thing making headlines since the site is down?

Anyway, I like it. I think its a great thing. Keeping us people informed! I think its great all these secret things can be accessed.

EDIT: actually while a lot of it is secret some things, like that Baghdad video and the current headlines are actually not that surprising. In fact  I remember hearing a blurb about the Baghdad incident when it happened.
Its still good to just get as much info out there as possible.




Edited by JJLehto - July 26 2010 at 17:49

RoyFairbank wrote: JJLehto wrote: I like it. I first heard of it from a prof about that Baghdad video, the one where the US military accidentally kills those reporters. I havnt been able to see the current thing making headlines since the site is down? Anyway, I like it. I think its a great thing. Keeping us people informed! I think its great all these secret things can be accessed. EDIT: actually while a lot of it is secret some things, like that Baghdad video and the current headlines are actually not that surprising. In fact  I remember hearing a blurb about the Baghdad incident when it happened. Its still good to just get as much info out there as possible. Honest people knew the occupation was an occupation and not a democracy-fest. It is no different from any other blood-letting committed by the American government on behalf of narrow and predatory interests. Honest people knew and know. The American population however is still largely floating somewhere in a disgusting dream of liberation and "national security." To them this is news, even though it severely isn't.

Well isn't that what I said more or less?
But even if it isnt news to people who, well had a brain, its still good anyway to get it out all out. And to those who did not know better this is of course important
And thats why I made a post about it when the former video was leaked. We should all spread it as much as we can.


Edited by JJLehto - July 26 2010 at 18:12

JJLehto wrote: RoyFairbank wrote: yeah the site wasn't working today. That's some brave sh**t though on behalf of the leakers and the site personnel. The American government can't be able to kill with impunity.  Agreed with that. I know wikileaks says they are 100% dedicated to maintaining privacy ad keeping it anonymous...but it must be tough to actually do. And lets hope the government never kills it! Would be a sad day

information wants to be free....now that it's all "out", it can't be put back in the bottle.  you could take that server down, 10 more will pop up with the files.

Padraic wrote: JJLehto wrote: RoyFairbank wrote: yeah the site wasn't working today. That's some brave sh**t though on behalf of the leakers and the site personnel. The American government can't be able to kill with impunity.  Agreed with that. I know wikileaks says they are 100% dedicated to maintaining privacy ad keeping it anonymous...but it must be tough to actually do. And lets hope the government never kills it! Would be a sad day information wants to be free....now that it's all "out", it can't be put back in the bottle.  you could take that server down, 10 more will pop up with the files.

....yes. Quite
In fact the site was down for a pretty long time, but indeed a host of "mirror" sites popped up with less...but still a lot of the stuff.
It has nothing to do with politics or party, NO government will be completely clear. Its great that we have the technology to do this stuff, and people dedicated to keeping it anonymous