Theism vs. Atheism ... will it ever be settled?

Many of those who followed the discussions in this forum about half a year ago may now ask: "Why is he creating another thread". And the reason is simple: I saw this funny video this morning:

Edited by Mr ProgFreak - December 12 2010 at 08:11

^ that's pretty much my opinion, too - I've now moved on to nutrition and fitness, topics which have much greater bearing on my daily life. But I still follow these discussions on YouTube and elsewhere, because some of them are highly entertaining, and I think that the matter is far from "settled" on a larger scale - in fact religions are currently growing rapidly, mostly due to Islam. 

It'll be settled on Judgement day!

Blacksword wrote: It'll be settled on Judgement day!

Dean wrote: Blacksword wrote: It'll be settled on Judgement day! Though, as the Sun only has 4.5billion years worth of fuel remaining, we're gonna be waiting in the dark.

Padraic wrote: Dean wrote: Blacksword wrote: It'll be settled on Judgement day! Though, as the Sun only has 4.5billion years worth of fuel remaining, we're gonna be waiting in the dark. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

strikes match.

No, it's NOT settled! We want more threads!

I think this is a rather insulting thread, and this is coming from an agnostic. Obviously theists don't believe their arguments have been thoroughly refuted. Your basic premise in your opening question is "I'm right and you're wrong so what do you think about that?" It doesn't seem like you want to have a real conversation, you just want to make fun of people you view as stupid.

All the logic and science in the world is not going to convince a theist that he is wrong, but it's not an issue which is governed by logic. It is one that comes from personal experience. Why don't you let others hold their beliefs, just as you are free to hold yours, without going out of your way to mock them? If you want to make the world a better place, you might start with a little respect for others.

thellama73 wrote: I think this is a rather insulting thread, and this is coming from an agnostic. Obviously theists don't believe their arguments have been thoroughly refuted. Your basic premise in your opening question is "I'm right and you're wrong so what do you think about that?" It doesn't seem like you want to have a real conversation, you just want to make fun of people you view as stupid.

Not at all. It's true that I don't care whether Theists believe that their arguments have been thoroughly refuted. What I do care about - and what I'm actually interested in - is whether they can explain to me, without referring to scripture or personal revelations, why and how their position makes sense.

I would never think of anyone as "stupid" just because they follow a religion ... but sometimes they make stupid points, and I don't think that it's disrespectful to point out the flaws in the arguments. For most other subjects (science, politics etc) people don't have any problem with such criticism.

Slartibartfast wrote: In all seriousness, I don't think a topic where everyone tends to get bent out of shape about can ever be settled. Now on to debating the meaning of what "Yes" is...

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