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Tin Of Hurri Curri
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Topic: Progressive Rock University Posted: September 15 2009 at 20:37 |
* I searched for a thread like this, and didn't find one. If one already exists, please let me know.
Imagine that there is a college that only offers classes that teach about progressive rock. The main type of homework for most of the classes would be listening to albums. Now imagine that it's your job to design a "Liberal Prog" curriculum or a curriculum for a certain major, e.g., the Symphonic Prog major. Make a list of courses students would take. In your list you can include a "professor" for each course. If you want to, you can list all the classes a student would take over four years; or you can make a very short list of courses. So that you see what I'm talking about, here is an example:
First Year, Fall Semester:
EP-101: Intro To Eclectic Prog Studies (3 credits), Professor: B. Eclectic
GG-101: Gentle Giant I (4 credits), Professor: Shulman (pick one)
KC-115: King Crimson 1969-1974 (4 credits), Professor: R. Fripp
LT-101: Fundamental Listening Techniques For The Progger (2 credits), Professor: J. Happyears
HI-101: Overview Of Prog History (3 credits), Professor: Binns
The other option is to make a sequential list of the classes that you "took" in your own prog journey. You can show us your progression from one artist or genre to another.
The academic year commences at Progressive Rock University. . . .
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 14:54 |
J. Happyears, that's awesome.  Let me try this; this is a pretty neat idea and I've thought about a similar concept before. Hmmmm... I'll tackle Electronic Prog, I think. We'll say this person is tackling 17 credit hours and that this is their first semester. TD-101: Tangerine Dream (3 credits), Professor: E. Froese TD-102: Tangerine Dream (3 credits), Professor: J. Froese KF-101: Kraftwerk (3 credits), Professor: R. Hutter KS-101: Klaus Schulze (3 credits), Professor: K. Schulze BE-101: Brian Eno (3 credits), Professor: B. Eno EL-101: Intro to Electronic Prog (2 credits), Professor: Ricochet V. Halloway (  )
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Textbook
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 15:02 |
What you could actually do is, using the community here, open a virtual online prog university. People could give a series of lectures in thread form about various subjects, open for discussion and debate, asking interested parties to study and submit writing on various topics which the expert then assesses. Via thread of youtube, documentaries about musical forms or particular artists could be produced. Using the magic of the internet, 'students', or those following the lecture could even produce practical, audio recordings that reflect what they have learned or studied, testing theories.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 15:04 |
Textbook wrote:
What you could actually do is, using the community here, open a virtual online prog university. People could give a series of lectures in thread form about various subjects, open for discussion and debate, asking interested parties to study and submit writing on various topics which the expert then assesses. Via thread of youtube, documentaries about musical forms or particular artists could be produced. Using the magic of the internet, 'students', or those following the lecture could even produce practical, audio recordings that reflect what they have learned or studied, testing theories. |
That sounds like an incredibly good idea to me.
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KoS
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 15:11 |
Intro to Snobbery and Pretentiousness
Edited by KoS - October 12 2009 at 15:11
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Textbook
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 15:12 |
The problem is attracting people who don't already know more (or think they do) than the person running the course. I mean, a whole lot of people who know eclectic prog inside out sign up for the eclectic prog course and then learn nothing they didn't already know, or spend all their time going "Well come on, so and so wasn't all that" or "What about so and so? Why aren't they in the course?" You may end up preaching to the choir.
Getting people in who are not already mad about prog would see the best results, but people who aren't already mad about prog may not be interested in signing up.
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The Runaway
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 15:13 |
KoS wrote:
Intro to Snobbery and Pretentiousness

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1000 credits to the teacher, 1 credit to the student, taught by Keith Emerson 
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TheCaptain
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 15:33 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Textbook wrote:
What you could actually do is, using the community here, open a virtual online prog university. People could give a series of lectures in thread form about various subjects, open for discussion and debate, asking interested parties to study and submit writing on various topics which the expert then assesses. Via thread of youtube, documentaries about musical forms or particular artists could be produced. Using the magic of the internet, 'students', or those following the lecture could even produce practical, audio recordings that reflect what they have learned or studied, testing theories. |
That sounds like an incredibly good idea to me.
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I'd definitely be interested in this.
Blowin Free wrote:
KoS wrote:
Intro to Snobbery and Pretentiousness

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1000 credits to the teacher, 1 credit to the student, taught by Keith Emerson   |
Tin Of Hurri Curri wrote:
HI-101: Overview Of Prog History (3 credits), Professor: Binns
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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Tin Of Hurri Curri
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 16:11 |
Textbook wrote:
What you could actually do is, using the community here, open a virtual online prog university. People could give a series of lectures in thread form about various subjects, open for discussion and debate, asking interested parties to study and submit writing on various topics which the expert then assesses. Via thread of youtube, documentaries about musical forms or particular artists could be produced. Using the magic of the internet, 'students', or those following the lecture could even produce practical, audio recordings that reflect what they have learned or studied, testing theories. |
It's interesting that you mention starting an actual "university," because my intention with starting this thread (the one we're on right now) was to receive some more prog education. You see, I am still very much a prog newbie, and I am interested in the many sub-genres of prog. I was thinking that I might learn what bands other people consider important for knowledge of a particular sub-genre.
P.S. Your idea of a multi-thread "university" sounds really cool to me.
P.P.S. How appropriate for someone named "Textbook" to post on this thread! 
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Textbook
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 17:54 |
I would envision the university as a sub-forum. If people are interested in doing this, let me know. I'm not knowledgable enough to be a lecturer but I could be a dean/administrator in terms of having someone oversee the project- a lack of knowledge is something of a plus in that capacity as I could judge whether something had appeal/import as explained by the lecturer without my own agenda getting in the way. Of course there is also the alternative of having no dean/administrator and just letting anyone who wants to go for it.
I would also suggest non-prog courses be allowed in order to encourage an atmosphere where people are being educated and exposed to new things rather than a hardcore prog community constantly being retaught how to suck eggs over Yes and ELP.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 18:18 |
Textbook wrote:
I would envision the university as a sub-forum. If people are interested in doing this, let me know. I'm not knowledgable enough to be a lecturer but I could be a dean/administrator in terms of having someone oversee the project- a lack of knowledge is something of a plus in that capacity as I could judge whether something had appeal/import as explained by the lecturer without my own agenda getting in the way. Of course there is also the alternative of having no dean/administrator and just letting anyone who wants to go for it.
I would also suggest non-prog courses be allowed in order to encourage an atmosphere where people are being educated and exposed to new things rather than a hardcore prog community constantly being retaught how to suck eggs over Yes and ELP. |
It could be a forum in of itself but a small one; and it could be linked on here. I would express interest in participating (as a lecturer), so long as my schedule is permitting.
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TheCaptain
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 17:52 |
I am nowhere near knowledgeable in prog to be a lecturer so I would get to be a student.
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 18:07 |
TheCaptain wrote:
I am nowhere near knowledgeable in prog to be a lecturer so I would get to be a student.
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I like to think that I know enough that I could be a lecturer in something, at least---though my knowledge isn't specialized in any one sub-genre. I like them all, really, just some I know better than others.
Edited by MovingPictures07 - October 13 2009 at 18:07
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Textbook
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 18:18 |
Well there could be general, 101 style courses Not everybody wants a six month programme about 1:34-1:47 of Close To The Edge.
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J-Man
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 18:30 |
Dude great thread!
PM101: A brief introduction to progressive metal QDT1101: Early progressive metal training (1985-1993) DT101: Dream Theater Education PDM1203: The beginnings of progressive death metal EOS101: Edge of Sanity, Death, and Opeth Fundamentals OPM101: Obscure Prog Metal (The Last Things, Drudkh, Blind Illusion, etc.)
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mrcozdude
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 18:31 |
I'll be the dinner lady.
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Textbook
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 18:36 |
I'm in charge of discipline.
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topofsm
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 18:53 |
I don't really know much enough to teach. I'll just apply to work for admissions.
*waits for applications*
*cricket noises*
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 19:10 |
Textbook wrote:
Well there could be general, 101 style courses Not everybody wants a six month programme about 1:34-1:47 of Close To The Edge. |
Why not?
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TheCaptain
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 19:18 |
My application:
Let me in because prog is pretty OK. If you don't then I'll call up my buddy R. Fripp and he'll guitar you into submission.
@Alex: I believe you could easily teach at least an intro course and I'd sign up for it.
@Textbook: I'm surprised at how good of a section 1:34-1:47 of CttE is at being a section (if that made sense).
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