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W.A.S.P
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Topic: Alex Lifeson...why is he not looked upon as a god? Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:26 |
Well, Alex Lifeson has to be one of the best guitarist in history !, He is way better than slash etc, so why is he not looked upon as a guitar god ! ?, Nowadays everone thinks to be good at guitar you have to have Speed, Speed, Speed and Nothing else, Sure Alex is fast, but listen to his amazing style of playing, his relaxed playing, and how amazing he sounds live, and on the albums.
I Better not be the only person that thinks this
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The Quiet One
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:30 |
Are you reffering that why non-prog fans don't consider Alex a god guitarist? or why don't prog fans consider him as a god guitarist?
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:38 |
He's alright, I s'pose. Better than Slash (Slash? Really? Utterly random namedrop, I'd say) ? Well, he does more than play bluesy riffs. But, then, can you really see Lifeson's work fitting in with GnR? Or Slash with Rush?
Slash smokes and wears a top hat and dark shades. He was in GnR. He oozes cool. Lifeson is Canadian and plays in Rush. Worlds apart.
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:44 |
Well, i mean, People in general, So Prog Fans and non-prog fans.
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:45 |
Lifeson is not that underrated, as he was invited to perform a rendition of christmas carol on one of the axemas compilation.
Rush is often cited among the younger generations of prog bands.
Just for his soloings on la villa strangiato and yyz he should be regarded as one of the most important guitarists on the general rock scene.
Oddly, in France, I never heard a single song of Rush on the radio, while their career spanned 30 years, and they sold a huge amount of cds, placing them among the best record sellers in the world.
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W.A.S.P
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:52 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
He's alright, I s'pose. Better than Slash (Slash? Really? Utterly random namedrop, I'd say) ? Well, he does more than play bluesy riffs. But, then, can you really see Lifeson's work fitting in with GnR? Or Slash with Rush?
Slash smokes and wears a top hat and dark shades. He was in GnR. He oozes cool. Lifeson is Canadian and plays in Rush. Worlds apart.
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But it does not matter what he looks like, that is not what makes people a good guitarist ! Just because he wears A Top hat and Shades, does not mean immediately that he is the best guitarist in the whole world, Sure he is one of the best, But i would not say he is the best, like some people think.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:55 |
W.A.S.P wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
He's alright, I s'pose. Better than Slash (Slash? Really? Utterly random namedrop, I'd say) ? Well, he does more than play bluesy riffs. But, then, can you really see Lifeson's work fitting in with GnR? Or Slash with Rush?
Slash smokes and wears a top hat and dark shades. He was in GnR. He oozes cool. Lifeson is Canadian and plays in Rush. Worlds apart.
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But it does not matter what he looks like, that is not what makes people a good guitarist ! Just because he wears A Top hat and Shades, does not mean immediately that he is the best guitarist in the whole world, Sure he is one of the best, But i would not say he is the best, like some people think.
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Image makes Slash memorable. Riffs make Slash memorable. Specially among people in general. Skill makes Lifeson a technically astute guitarist.
Edited by WalterDigsTunes - April 18 2009 at 15:56
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The Quiet One
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:57 |
W.A.S.P wrote:
Well, i mean, People in general, So Prog Fans and non-prog fans. |
In that case, Prog fans in general wouldn't consider Alex a guitar god, mainly because Rush is more on the Rock side of Prog, and much more Alex himself. For non-prog fans, well, there must be a very high porcentage of people who don't even know Rush, so, that's one of the main reasons...
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Logan
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 16:04 |
Alex Lifeson is good, but is he more godlike than other Prog guitarists such as John McLaughlin, Al di Meola, Robert Fripp, Fred Frith, Allan Holdsworth, Roger Wootton, Jan Akkerman etc.?
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 17:48 |
I don't think I've heard one Lifeson solo that has made my jaw drop. His solos just aren't that memorable. At least not to me.
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 20:07 |
Great guitarist - but not worthy of deification, I think.
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 20:13 |
what's this doing in the Proto-Prog & Prog Related lounge?
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 23:12 |
Alex Lifeson is really great.
No guitarrist can be looked as a God.
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 23:35 |
He simply isn't as good as others. Neither is Slash, Jimmy Page, Randy Roads, etc. they're all looked upon as "gods" in the mainstream music world. Listen to Jason Becker, sure you might say I'm just saying he's a god because of his speed, but his music is very...musical too, it's not just random playing.
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 23:36 |
Logan wrote:
Alex Lifeson is good, but is he more godlike than other Prog guitarists such as John McLaughlin, Al di Meola, Robert Fripp, Fred Frith, Allan Holdsworth, Roger Wootton, Jan Akkerman etc.? |
Well put.
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 23:54 |
It's not so much that Lifeson is not being deified but that the other two are when there definitely were better bassists and drummers from that time. Lifeson is a good guitarist and very important to the Rush sound, actually his getting sidelined in the 80s with their synthesizer craze is the main reason I don't like their 80s albums much. Godly? Never, there were and are better guitarists both in prog and non-prog.
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Posted: April 18 2009 at 23:58 |
MisterProg2112 wrote:
He simply isn't as good as others. Neither is Slash, Jimmy Page, Randy Roads |
treading on thin ice there, I can understand Page due to sloppiness but Rhoads? Yyyeaahh, don't think so, especially considering his mastery of classical guitar, limitless vocabulary, remarkable self-recording abilities, I could go on for days...
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topofsm
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Posted: April 19 2009 at 02:16 |
Am I the only one that thinks Alex Lifeson sounds terribly sloppy live? I've heard several live versions of "The Spirit of Radio" and it sounds like he's struggling to get the opening licks in time. With respect to him, since my guitarist friends say it's a rather hard opening part to play.
Though I adore his guitar work in La Villa Strangiato.
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Posted: April 19 2009 at 02:24 |
I think Alex's playing improved immensely round about Signals when he stopped trying to prove something and developed his leaner, cleaner selection of phrases and accents
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progrules
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Posted: April 19 2009 at 02:52 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
I don't think I've heard one Lifeson solo that has made my jaw drop. His solos just aren't that memorable. At least not to me. |
Really ??? Did you hear his solos on The Necromancer ? Especially the last one is VERY memorable.
To me Alex is a half god.
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