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Sweetnighter
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Topic: Favorite US President since 1960 Posted: April 29 2005 at 01:33 |
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 02:55 |
From an outsiders point of view - Bill Clinton. He is the only US president who has bothered to stay longer than overnight in our country. He is still held in high regard in this country. As for George W and George Bush snr....
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 05:30 |
Jimmy Carter for me. He seems like a reasonable man. Is he still alive?
Clinton was ok too. Although I have to admit I'm not an expert when it
comes to US Presidents.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 06:36 |
Nixon for me,because he's the only one to publicly admit what a lying,cheating,conniving,immoral,duplicitous bastard he was.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 08:17 |
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 08:22 |
Which one wasn't a crook??
I'll vote for him.
Oliver Stone portrayed Kennedy as an angel, when in the eyes of many Amercians he was in bed with the mafia, Clinton was doing OK until he got involved in dodgy property dealings, and stuck a cigar where he shouldn't. Some people say that the whole Monica Lewinski thing was a Zionist plot to discredit Clinton after he suggested that he may cut military aid to Israel. whatever..
Politics is crooked the world over...
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Velvetclown
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 08:29 |
They were all crooks, just like any politician, anywhere in the world.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:04 |
Clinton....any prez that plays sax is allrigth with me, i heard his mistress played the flute....any truth to that rumor guys?
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:17 |
Carter's quite the humanitarian -- not too sure about his presidential record, but the man works hard for the poor and downtrodden. For that, he has my deep respect -- not your average establishment fat-cat.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:29 |
true peter ...but carter's post-presidentia;l career has served to partially eclipse the fact that in office his own strict value systems (the reason he won the election) became self-abnegating and he couldnt accomplish the things he had set out to do in washington because of that.....basically because he WASNT one of those corrupt fat-cats scratching backs and taking bribes, the rest of washington(who was heavily into all the fat-catting) blackballed him, and without people behind you even the prez cant get anything done in washington........a true paradox....his own refusal to bend the rules and steadfastness in upholding the common man's rights is precisely what determined the fact that many of teh systems he would have implemented to do just that, were never to make it anywhere near manifestation because the politicians whom he sought to protect us against shot them down too quickly, even the ones in his own party(to him they were just as corrupt as the republicans)
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:30 |
I like Nixon and Reagan, both somehow managed to warm up the relations with the communist countries (Nixon with China, Reagan with Russia).
Reagan was fun , voted for Nixon because I'm one of Reed's minions
BTW I would never vote for JFK, he was a mob-guy
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:37 |
although much of the public was duped in th eearly 60's into believing all the bureacrats propaganda regarding jfk, tiem has shown that while the populus may be slow to see the light , the truth eventually wins out, even among the credulous masses
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:48 |
JFK was a smart man... just not a good point in our history (cuban missle crisis) and he didn't really have enough time to cement his plan. Clinton, another smart man, was a great president (in the matters that were truly important)... all the sex and real estate crap was just "politics" at its best. Personally I say if a little extra fun in the Whitehouse helped him focus better... then give him fun!
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:53 |
Clinton made the whole planet laugh when he laughed at jokes from Chirac and Yeltsin! This made for calmer politics!
He also had the whole planet laughing at this Monica bit and the whole planet crying at stupid republican-backed judges on this impeachment.
Clearly the best president since Kenedy!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:56 |
Ever thought why Monica did not wash that dress if it was not to blackmail the president!
I suppose she wanted to keep a token of his affection, uh!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 11:01 |
I voted Reagan because he was a fair man. Everyone loved him---and for good reason!! Carter is a close second, however.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 11:27 |
What's the difference they are all the same puppets. oil and weapon companys rule this country and the rest of the world!
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 11:48 |
i find it very interesting that presidents, since 1960, from the state of texas, have all put us into war. 
l.b.j
george bush
george w.

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Posted: April 29 2005 at 11:55 |
Velvetclown wrote:
They were all crooks, just like any politician, anywhere in the world.
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my opinion tends to lean in that general direction too Velvetclown.
also, i cannot help but think that, to a certain extent, they're all just puppets of greater global influences
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 12:07 |
jimmy carter was a politician further form being a crook( and more morally concerned) than most civilians...too bad it (predictably) worked against him
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