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ModernRocker79
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Topic: The Beatles First Psychedelic Rock or Pop Song? Posted: December 29 2008 at 21:17 |
My choice is the "The Word" with it's keyboard sounds, vocals harmonies and lyrics.
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Chelsea
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 10:40 |
My vote is "Norwegian Wood" it's folksy and with the sitar added on it sounds sort of Psychedelic. I think there is some Psychedelic touches on Rubber Soul. Full blown Psychedelic Rock is "Tomorrow Never Knows'". |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 18:08 |
I chose "Rain" It's awesome.
Of course, not necessary to use the reverse sound of their tape.
All are great...an effector of voice, Ringo's drumming (like Hal Blaine's), and the song itself...
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Jozef
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Posted: January 01 2009 at 00:58 |
I've never thought of "Nowhere Man" as being psychedelic. I'm going to vote for "Tomorrow Never Knows". It was a very big departure from that pop sound they had in the beginning.
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Chelsea
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Posted: January 06 2009 at 15:00 |
After listening to Rubber Soul and Help there is traces in songs like "It's Only Love" and "Ticket to Ride" droning jangly guitars and the distinctive drum pattern mantra/raga rock rhythm on Help. The drum pattern almost like the one on “Tomorrow Never Knows”. On Rubber Soul "Think For Yourself" has the distorted fuzz bass riffs, sitar buzzing on "Norwegian Wood" and the brief psychedelic sounding keyboards on the pre "All You Need is Love" song "The Word. Other bands were showing hints like the Yardbirds and the Kinks in 1965. |
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J-Man
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Posted: January 06 2009 at 15:12 |
Rain all the way!
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AlanD
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 06:19 |
Both TNK and Rain display that psychedelic influence - but TNK was recorded first (the very first session for Revolver in April 1966) which indeed makes it the first!
Speaking of TNK, only those who were around at the time will even begin to comprehend the seismic impact that the sound of this track alone had on Western culture, so different was it from everything else that had gone before in the history of rock.
There is no comparable differential from the norm around today, in these 'heard it all before' times, more's the pity.
Glad I was alive & kicking in the 60s....
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chopper
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 06:35 |
People tend to forget this when assessing Revolver, Sgt Pepper etc.
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jimidom
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 13:12 |
Tomorrow Never Knows... Norwegian Wood is very close, but it still comes across to me as a folk song albeit a progressive one. |
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Faubzzy
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 18:42 |
Yes indeed, Rain is a cool psychadelic tune, and of course, very English. In fact, this is an hymn for an english rain...If the rain comes.........
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earlyprog
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 03:37 |
The Word mainly because of the lyrics. Closely followed by Yellow Submarine.
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weetabix
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 06:56 |
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someone_else
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 09:40 |
I can't remember 'The Word'. I must haved heard it a least once, long ago. 'Rubber Soul' is the Beatles' first move in a more progressive direction. The psych period of the Beatles starts in 1966. This leaves the choice between 'Tomorrow Never Knows' and 'Rain'. According to Wikipedia, 'Tomorrow Never Knows' was recorded 8 days earlier than Rain, although it was released 8 weeks later (in the UK). So my vote goes to 'Tomorrow Never Knows'. |
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JLocke
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 11:36 |
"Rain" for me too. While "Tomorrow Never Knows" was certainly the first full-bvlown Prog sonmg they ever did, the hints at psychedelia were there ever since Beatles For Sale, and the single "Rain" during the Rubber Soul era pushed that envelope even further. A very beautiful, haunting, psychedelic rock song.
Edited by p0mt3 - May 28 2009 at 11:37 |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 02:47 |
Norwegian Wood without a doubt - the first glimmerings of psychedelia in music since Alan Watts "This Is It", released in 1962 (or arguably, the Holy Modal Rounders a couple of years later).
Rain is a very close second - TMK is just the full realisation of techniques used on Rain (and She Said, She Said), even though the end result is light years away.
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: June 07 2009 at 16:23 |
The Word and Norwegian Wood has some psychedelic elements but I don't consider them to be psychedelic songs. My vote goes for Rain.
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Morakthesage
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:35 |
Rain, because it just has such a psychadelic feel to the whole thing. The backmasking helps too. Previous songs were pratice, maybe, but Rain is the first to deliver.
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GaryB
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 06:05 |
Tomorrow Never Knows and Rain are by far my two favorites of the five. As good as Rain was, especially the vocals, I still have to go with Tomorrow Never Knows. Like AlanD, I was alive and kicking in the 60s and was sixteen when Revolver was recorded. To me, Revolver was a sign of the changing times both musically and socially.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: November 20 2009 at 22:35 |
This is my one psycodelic Beatle moment or song is on "A Day In The Life" after,"I'd love to turn you ooooooonnnn" then the orchestral build-up,(the second time).I was eight or nine and I stopped and yelled out, "What The F........... a classic beatle "i gotcha moment' and got me they did. we also melted army men
while listening to the fab four in the backyard.and we played mock Lincoln assasins at the intro to "Good Day Sunshine"
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mystic fred
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Posted: November 21 2009 at 00:54 |
Nothing remotely Psyche about Norwegian Wood, except a bit of Sitar in it..?
Officially according to release dates the first real Psyche song by the Beatles was "Rain" as the B side of "Paperback Writer" in June 1966, followed by the album "Revolver" in August, containing the Psyche classic "Tomorrow Never Knows".
Edited by mystic fred - November 21 2009 at 00:59 |
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