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Dragon Phoenix ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1475 |
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She has been talked about frequently, but I don't think she has ever been formally proposed for inclusion. I think most if not all of her albums fall under the category art rock. The B-side of the album Hounds of love ("The ninth wave") is IMHO one of the best prog rock tracks ever writen. |
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Miaugion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 22 2004 Location: Christmas Island Status: Offline Points: 295 |
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Yep, why not? If Gabriel, Zappa and Mr Bungle are listed in the Archives KaTe could be listed, too.
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You house proud town mouse
ha ha, charade you are |
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lucas ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 06 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 8138 |
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I am with you guys, Kate was very original in her approach to music and deserves a mention.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Prog_Bassist ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 830 |
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yeah I agree. She's much like Peter Gabriel. So she might as well be in.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29332 |
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I agree.Hounds of Love is a great album full of ideas.The Dreaming is excellent as well.Both are ''art/pop/prog'' IMO.
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Dragon Phoenix ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1475 |
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Bump... Because a friend asked me to explain what prog rock was, so I referred him to the definition on this site ( http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp). And then I noticed in that story, a short excerpt:
So if she is included in this site's own definition of what prog is, then why is she not in the archives... |
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lucas ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 06 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 8138 |
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KB has already a place in two prog sites : Babyblaue prog reviews (a german site devoted to progressive musics) and NGEPR. So if Progarchives tends to be the most complete prog site, it has to include KB. BTW, I consider KB's work to be as prog as Peter Gabriel's one. |
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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She should definately be in, just listen to the wealth of ideas in "The Dreaming"
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If Kate Bush is included in prog rock then i know for sure the world has gone mad. Just because she ain't mainstream dosen't mean she is prog.................art rock is for the students who think they are cool, but are at best, only twats. Get a grip people and live in the real world...for christs sake.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Strong words my friend, but I'd 'ave 'er! BTW isnt Art Rock( according to the Archives) a sub genre of Prog? |
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Dragon Phoenix ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1475 |
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Bump.
Can someone add her or would that lead to another Jon and Vangelis or Deep Purple reaction? Edited by Dragon Phoenix |
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Blog this:
http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
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valravennz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 20 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 2546 |
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It is a pleasant surprise to see this thread. Here is one artist that should be included in the Archives. I think most of her albums have some prog element to them and I agree if she is included the Art catagory would fit the bill. Most prog albums IMO are "The Dreaming" "Never Forever" and "Hounds of Love".
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If Kate Bush is added...then lets go the full hog and include Madonna, who's music has progressed from her early pop songs to art rock(ish). Well everyone else is being silly........Heathcliffe its me a kathy.......real prog.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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.....and where are the prog sensibilities in Madonnas music? Come on be serious for once!
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Matti ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2147 |
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This debate is a good example of the problem with the term 'prog'. The only reason I use it myself at all (when speaking about my music taste) is the fact that most of my favourite artists belong to the genre without a question. But if 'art rock' would not be a name of a sub-genre (quite hazy 'sub-genre', I bet), I'd prefer to talk about art rock instead of prog, implying by it: prog AND other rock(& pop) that is... well, arty and intelligent and original. Something that needs a certain concentration and gives 'artistic enjoyment' - excluding genres like 'prog metal' which serve quite different reasons and attitude for listening. Of course THAT line is as problematic as any other (and sorry for all the prog metal fans... So, I would vote YES to Kate's inclusion. PS II: I just found out the "storm in a water-glass" issue which I missed completely, not being here on weekends. But I don't exactly know would have I taken 'sides' on it anyway. Hopefully it all has sorted out. Edited by Matti |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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What the f**k are you talking about?
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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I downloaded a video of Kate performing Comfortably Numb with Gilmour. Awful quality but the performance seems pretty good
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If ELP are here....then shouldn't their wives be added. That is as sensible a statement as the one up above. Quasimodo is better looking than Gabriel...add him too. |
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