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Starless 
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 08:18 |
Beat this for essential debuts:
The Doors - The Doors
Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - Pink Floyd
Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix Experience
Velvet Underground & Nico - Velvet Underground
Mr Fantasy - Traffic
Yes I know only one is "prog", but we're talking ground breaking essential music here, regardless of labels.
Bubbling under, but not essential:
London Conversation - John Martyn
Vanilla Fudge - Vanilla Fudge
Big Brother & The Holding Co. - Big Brother & The Holding Co
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febus
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:21 |
Like it or not, you can't dismiss 2 albums that were instrumental to the birth of prog:
Days of future passed-Moody Blues
Procol Harum 1st album-PH
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Philip
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:41 |
Yeah, I agree. Some bands released their best works, or started careers with great albuns in this year. I think I would have liked to have lived in 1967.
In terms of debut albums, regarding their quality, cultural impact, influence in otehr styles of music, this year, the year of psychadelism is the better of all time.
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BroSpence
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:41 |
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Don't forget...
Captain Beefheart - Safe as Milk
the Grateful Dead - s/t
Moby Grape - s/t
Procol Harum - s/t
The Nice - The Emerlist DavJak
Pearls Before Swine - One Nation Underground
Savoy Brown - Shake Down
The Red Krayola - The Parable of Arable Land
Nico - Chelsea Girl
David Bowie - David Bowie (although not his best, this was the start).
Interestingly enough, ten years later there was another revolution of great debuts.
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Starless
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 11:56 |
 BroSpence wrote:
Don't forget...
Captain Beefheart - Safe as Milk
the Grateful Dead - s/t
Moby Grape - s/t
Procol Harum - s/t
The Nice - The Emerlist DavJak
Pearls Before Swine - One Nation Underground
Savoy Brown - Shake Down
The Red Krayola - The Parable of Arable Land
Nico - Chelsea Girl
David Bowie - David Bowie (although not his best, this was the start).
Interestingly enough, ten years later there was another revolution of great debuts. |
All good albums admittedly, but ground breaking? Mebbe Red Krayola & PBS as I'm ashamed to say I have never heard either!
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 11:57 |
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And Elmer Gantry's Velvet Opera - s/t
Parson Sound - s/t (okay, the only album by Parson Sound but a terrific album)
H.P. Lovecraft -s/t
The Incredible String Band - The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
Niemen Czeslaw - Dziwny Jest...
Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen
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Starless
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:03 |
febus wrote:
Like it or not, you can't dismiss 2 albums that were instrumental to the birth of prog:
Days of future passed-Moody Blues
Procol Harum 1st album-PH |
Wasn't DoFP their 2nd LP? Deffo essential to prog tho'
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:55 |
'67 and '73 were the years I would pick if I could only have (2) desert-island "years" to choose from... 
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 13:14 |
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I would pick 1969 or 1970. So many bands debuted in these years. Not all of these debut albums were great ("From Genesis to Revelation" anyone?), but some were. To name but a few:
1969
High Tide - Sea Shanties
Gentle Giant - Same
Amon Düül 2 - Phallus Dei
1970
Guru Guru - UFO
Focus - In and Out of Focus
Atomic Rooster - Same
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febus
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:18 |
Starless wrote:
febus wrote:
Like it or not, you can't dismiss 2 albums that were instrumental to the birth of prog:
Days of future passed-Moody Blues
Procol Harum 1st album-PH |
Wasn't DoFP their 2nd LP? Deffo essential to prog tho'
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No, no, ''Days of future passed'' was their really first issued in 1967!!  If you exclude an album released earlier with Denny Laine on guitar that has nothing to do musically with the Moody Blues we know.
DOFP is regularly referenced as their first ''true'' release. ''In Search of The Lost Chord '' would be their 2nd LP
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Starless
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:30 |
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No, no, ''Days of future passed'' was their really first issued in 1967!! If you exclude an album released earlier with Denny Laine on guitar that has nothing to do musically with the Moody Blues we know.
DOFP is regularly referenced as their first ''true'' release. ''In Search of The Lost Chord '' would be their 2nd LP [/QUOTE]
That's like saying From Genesis To Revelation wasn't the first Genesis LP because it bears no relation line-up wise or musically to what followed! It's still their first album tho', just as Magnificent Moodies is the first Moody Blues album, as indeed this very website will tell you.
Anyway, this ain't meant to be an argument, just a friendly "list" discussion  |
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:39 |
Just thought of one I missed:
Electric Music for The Mind & Body - Country Joe & The Fish
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Pnoom!
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:03 |
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I doubt this is the best year, but I'd have to think for a better one.
Certainly Safe as Milk and VU & Nico make this a pretty good competitor.
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:43 |
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Great call, Starless. An unbeatable year, as far as I'm concerned. What would life be like without "Are You Experienced?" or "The Velvet Underground and Nico"?
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:56 |
Better than life without post-1989 music 
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:08 |
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There's no such thing. Only aimless twiddle-twaddle made by nobodies.
Now, the real issue is... do fans prefer the UK or the US version of "Are You Experienced?"
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Pnoom!
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:49 |
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Sometimes I like to think you don't really mean the nonsense you spout about post-1989 music because I don't like having nightmares about such appalling music taste.
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1800iareyay
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:56 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
There's no such thing. Only aimless twiddle-twaddle made by nobodies.
Now, the real issue is... do fans prefer the UK or the US version of "Are You Experienced?"
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The US. I don't normally go for cutting out tunes in favor of singles that are readily available on any greatest hits set (I VASTLY prefer the UK versions of The Clash and The Stones' Aftermath). But didn't the remasters put all the tracks that weren't available on each version? So the US got the cut tracks and the UK got the hit singles for convenience?
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:08 |
Pnoom! wrote:
Sometimes I like to think you don't really mean the nonsense you spout about post-1989 music because I don't like having nightmares about such appalling music taste.
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It's not nonsense, boyo. It's the Truth. There shall be no post-89 buffoonery in my presence. Real music, not new music. That's where the magic is. I pity the poor, misguided souls who would reject quality tunes in favour of diluted modern guff. I have nightmares about people with such appalling music taste. But now, back to 1967... a fantastic year for debuts.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:08 |
1800iareyay wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
There's no such thing. Only aimless twiddle-twaddle made by nobodies.
Now, the real issue is... do fans prefer the UK or the US version of "Are You Experienced?"
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The US. I don't normally go for cutting out tunes in favor of singles that are readily available on any greatest hits set (I VASTLY prefer the UK versions of The Clash and The Stones' Aftermath). But didn't the remasters put all the tracks that weren't available on each version? So the US got the cut tracks and the UK got the hit singles for convenience?
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Actually, the UK version came out first. 'Twas the US version that received the hit singles. But yeah, the remasters do have all the tunes, and then some.
Edited by WalterDigsTunes - June 24 2008 at 17:09
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