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    Posted: March 30 2007 at 14:05

I have been "into" post rock way before i got into prog. I wanted to write post-rock reviews but the bands arent here.

Here are a few suggestions (just the bare minimum): the Autumn project, Sunn 0))), (yes they are considered post rock in most non-prog post rock circles), This Will Destroy You, Jesu. There are tons more but these are essential.
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I don't know any you mentioned, but they may be post-rock but not prog...
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Points: 7606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2007 at 14:09
lol in doom circles Sunn 0))) are considered drone doom and quite honestly I think their music is anti-prog

even if they were prog then Earth would be the essential band, not Sunn
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Points: 21616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2007 at 14:09
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

I have been "into" post rock way before i got into prog. I wanted to write post-rock reviews but the bands arent here.

Here are a few suggestions (just the bare minimum): the Autumn project, Sunn 0))), (yes they are considered post rock in most non-prog post rock circles), This Will Destroy You, Jesu. There are tons more but these are essential.


Non Prog Post Rock = Drone.

At least that's what I used to think ... Tongue

BTW: Welcome to the site where genre discussions never cease.Big%20smile
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2007 at 22:43
Sunn O)))? They're straight up drone doom to me. Even Boris is (or was...) more post-rock than Sunn O))) and I don't see them being here in PA...

As for bands not being in PA, well we're trying to add as many post-rock bands as we can, but it isn't easy to come up with a bio every time a band gets cleared for addition specially post-rock band which information about bands is pretty scarce.

If you would like to see more bands from the genre added here in PA then feel free to write a bio for any of these bands cleared for addition on the list: http://www.progtology.com/home/progarchives/postrockchart.xhtml

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Points: 3013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 04:29
Sunn 0))) have nothing to do with post-rock... nor do Jesu really for that matter.
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 17:27

Post-Rock gets too nailed down, people are allways complaining that post rock bands sound too much alike. They sound too much alike because the defonition we use is too small to include different sounds.

if Sunn 0))) or Boris for that matter dont fit Post-Rock we should remember that the actual genre on this site is Post-Rock/Experimental. Dont try to tell me Sunn 0))) is'nt experimental.
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Post-Rock gets too nailed down, people are allways complaining that post rock bands sound too much alike. They sound too much alike because the defonition we use is too small to include different sounds.

if Sunn 0))) or Boris for that matter dont fit Post-Rock we should remember that the actual genre on this site is Post-Rock/Experimental. Dont try to tell me Sunn 0))) is'nt experimental.

 
They aren't trying to tell you that they aren't experimental, everything is just experimental in it's own way. And from what I've heard, they aren't exactly experimental in a progressive kind of way.
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Points: 7606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2007 at 22:02
I really like Boris and I really, really don't want to see them here
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Speaking personally (i.e. not as an Admin) I think we need to be careful with Post Rock. There is no automatic assumption that all post rock bands are prog.
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:01
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Speaking personally (i.e. not as an Admin) I think we need to be careful with Post Rock. There is no automatic assumption that all post rock bands are prog.
 
To quote the genius Zappa88:
 
"They aren't trying to tell you that they aren't experimental, everything is just experimental in it's own way. And from what I've heard, they aren't exactly experimental in a progressive kind of way."
 
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:15
hmm... the genres that are used on this site confuse me. the defonitions are not easily understandable.
for exampleEXPERIMENTAL the archive defonition of experimental is

Experimental music is any music that challenges the commonly accepted notions of what music is. There is an overlap with avant-garde music. John Cage was a pioneer in experimental music and defined and gave credibility to the form. As with other edge forms that push the limits of a particular form of expression, there is little agreement as to the boundaries of experimental music, even amongst its practitioners. On the one hand, some experimental music is an extension of traditional music, adding unconventional instruments, modifications to instruments, noises, and other novelties to orchestral compositions. At the other extreme, there are performances that most listeners would not characterize as music at all.
this would lead me to assume that Wolf Eyes or Menomena would be good recomendations to the site. But obviously they arn't prog so they are not.
 
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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:20
Just a quick thought, I would remove the term Experimental from there. All bands represented in the archives (or at least most) in the various genres are experimental in one way or another and to some extent.
I once thought that the term experimental would be best applied to the RIO/Avant genre but that is somewhat redundant... And as I said above, this term really says nothing much to me and doesn't add much and also, as said by Proletariat, causes confusion.
I think the post-rock label is enough.
But now go back to discussing the progessiveness of post-rock bands, sorry to have intruded.
 
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Points: 5308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:22
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Just a quick thought, I would remove the term Experimental from there. All bands represented in the archives (or at least most) in the various genres are experimental in one way or another and to some extent.
I once thought that the term experimental would be best applied to the RIO/Avant genre but that is somewhat redundant... And as I said above, this term really says nothing much to me and doesn't add much and also, as said by Proletariat, causes confusion.
I think the post-rock label is enough.
But now go back to discussing the progessiveness of post-rock bands, sorry to have intruded.
 
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Haven't we all agreed on that before? I think someone should ask someone to ask an admin to ask M@X about it. Otherwise... it's misleading!
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:25

Agreed, Most Experimental isn't progressive, mabe say prog-experimental or Avant-prog, if only to keep The Sonic Youth or I guess in most of your cases Sunn 0)))
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:26

out of the archives.

(sorry i hit the post button too soon)
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Points: 3839 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:27
Jesu is more of a straight shoegazer band with metal timbres.  They have very little to do with post rock.  While I am a fan of all of those bands, I don't think any of them belong on a prog website. 

However, I think This Will Desroy You may be added soon.
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Points: 5308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2007 at 17:28
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

out of the archives.

 
Was that supposed to be a threat? As in, "Out of the archives, you heathen!" If so, you forgot to add "April Fools!!!" at the end. LOLWink
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2007 at 20:51

hmmm.... i had meant to finish my sentance, most "heathens" dont listen to prog though the band Tyr love to call themselves such

I had meant to say: "i guess most experimental music isn't prog, mabe say expiremental-prog, otherwise it seems that the sonic youth and wolf eyes belong in the archive keep THEM out

does that make more sence?
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Points: 825 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2007 at 22:15
yeah This Will Destroy You have a really GREAT EP, i'm expecting their second album
i love Jesu, Heartache awesome EP, absolutely brilliant! but there's a lot of bands waiting:

Friends In the Mountains,
Polmo Polpo,
Grace Cathedral Park,
Astro,
Birchville Cat Motel,
Jackie-O Motherf**ker,
Charalambides,
1/3rd Octave Band,
Et Sans,
Ulan Bator,
Kundalini Snakes,
San Agustin,
Plants,
Destroyalldreamers,
My Cat is An Alien,
Oneida,
Vapour Theories,
Shalabi Effect,
Stars of The Lid,
People For Audio,
Main,
Timonium,
Windy & Carl,
Alumbrados and many, many more
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