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video vertigo 
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 Topic: Best of the US President's The Finals
Posted: March 10 2007 at 23:40 |
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After eliminating those with just 0,1 or 2 votes who is the best that remains?
Edited by video vertigo - March 10 2007 at 23:41
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rileydog22
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Posted: March 11 2007 at 00:45 |
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Abe Lincoln! The man united the North and South, the most difficult task ever put before a president.
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 11 2007 at 14:18 |
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To hard to choose fairly. Who knows how the country would have faired without Washington in the beginning, or with Lincoln during the war?
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 11 2007 at 18:14 |
REAGAN!?!?
That is tough, but I have to say Lincoln.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 11 2007 at 19:13 |
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Reagen is one of the best up there. You should wonder how someone as disgusting as Clinton landed himself on there.
Washington and Jefferson are my two favorite presidents, but Washington
did so much simply in terms of the precedents he set for the office and
what he symbollically meant to the country.
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thellama73
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Posted: March 11 2007 at 22:41 |
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I am a total Reaganaut. Reagan and Thatcher are the ultimate power couple.
It was hard to not to vote for Jefferson though. "The government which governs least, governs best."
Edited by thellama73 - March 11 2007 at 22:42
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 00:44 |
 Equality 7-2521 wrote:
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Reagen is one of the best up there. You should wonder how someone as disgusting as Clinton landed himself on there. |
I'm sure they all have/had skeletons in the closet of some sort or another.
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BroSpence
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 01:49 |
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THEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Pnoom!
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 13:12 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Abe Lincoln! The man united the North and South, the most difficult task ever put before a president. |
No he didn't...
He only got elected in half the country... even after the war, the south hated him... they only went along with them because they lost the civil war...
A great president, but...
I choose good old George for beating up on the "other" George and getting me a country.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 17:27 |
Reagan?! Did any American over the age of 30 vote on this guy? Don't get me started on the apostasy known as revisionist history.... 
FDR was the man! Led this country honorably through two of the most trying periods in our history - WWII and the Great Depression, much of it from a wheelcair, and did it with grace and dignity.
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cookieacquired
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 19:10 |
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My vote's got to go for Teddy
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 23:57 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Reagan?! Did any American over
the age of 30 vote on this guy? Don't get me started on the
apostasy known as revisionist history....
He swept 49 states. I'm pretty sure he had plenty of voters over the age of 30. And since when does age play an importance.
FDR was the man! Led this country honorably
through two of the most trying periods in our history - WWII and the
Great Depression, much of it from a wheelcair, and did it with grace
and dignity.
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No comments on FDR as I don't feel like arguing about him.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 23:59 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Reagan?! Did any American over the age of 30 vote on this guy? Don't get me started on the apostasy known as revisionist history....
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I'm not a big Ronny fan either. I think I was the only one in my Fraternity that voted for Mondale.
Anyway, my vote goes for Abe. He took a lot of crap, and managed to change the course of history.
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video vertigo
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 00:13 |
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Democrats 2 Republicans 11
seems about right to me.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 00:53 |
bhikkhu wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Reagan?! Did any American over the age of 30 vote on this guy? Don't get me started on the apostasy known as revisionist history....
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I'm not a big Ronny fan either. I think I was the only one in my Fraternity that voted for Mondale.
Anyway, my vote goes for Abe. He took a lot of crap, and managed to change the course of history. |
Glad some others share my feeling of Reagan. Cant find too many.
Edited by JJLehto - March 13 2007 at 00:53
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BroSpence
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 03:30 |
I agree with you. Reagan was horse sh*t. He did not end the cold war. He is given way too much credit. After 8 years of ruling, he still never got that Oscar.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 06:32 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Reagan?! Did any American over the age of 30 vote on this guy? Don't get me started on the apostasy known as revisionist history....
He swept 49 states. I'm pretty sure he had plenty of voters over the age of 30. And since when does age play an importance.
FDR was the man! Led this country honorably through two of the most trying periods in our history - WWII and the Great Depression, much of it from a wheelcair, and did it with grace and dignity.
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No comments on FDR as I don't feel like arguing about him.
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You misunderstood the comment. I said I doubted very many American ProgArchives members currently over the age of 30 voted for Reagan as "Best U.S. President". And in this case - yes, age would be critically important, since we're talking about those of us who lived through Reagan's America and experienced that administration first-hand.
And really, don't be obtuse - anyone who has even run for local dogcatcher will tell you that voters' ages matter very much to politicians. The reasons are quite simple: there are far more people aged 30-90+ than there are 18-29; the percentage of older people who vote is much higher than that of young people; older people are more likely to have large amounts of money to donate to candidates; and perhaps most importantly, older people are more likely to be land/home owners, small businessmen, or civic leaders, and therefore are more useful to politicians who want to leverage their local influence.
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
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IVNORD
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 08:58 |
BroSpence wrote:
Reagan was horse sh*t. He did not end the cold war. He is given way too much credit. After 8 years of ruling, he still never got that Oscar.
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He did not end the cold war, true, but his policy accelerated the downfall of the USSR. That’s probably the only positive factor of his bloated budget deficit. I was perplexed when he claimed he would cut taxes and increase defense spending during the 1980 campaign as the two things seemed to be mutually exclusive. And 6 years later we got it – a tax break and a huge bill. But at least it was put to good use as the arms race destroyed the soviet economy
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 12:18 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Equality
7-2521 wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Reagan?! Did any
American over the age of 30 vote on this guy? Don't get me
started on the apostasy known as revisionist history....
He swept 49 states. I'm pretty sure he had plenty of voters over the age of 30. And since when does age play an importance.
FDR was the man! Led this country honorably
through two of the most trying periods in our history - WWII and the
Great Depression, much of it from a wheelcair, and did it with grace
and dignity.
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No comments on FDR as I don't feel like arguing about him.
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You misunderstood the comment. I said
I doubted very many American ProgArchives members currently
over the age of 30 voted for Reagan as "Best U.S. President". And
in this case - yes, age would be critically important, since we're
talking about those of us who lived through Reagan's America and
experienced that administration first-hand.
From the way you phrased what you said, it didn't sound like that. Sorry, my mistake.
And really, don't be obtuse - anyone who has even run for local
dogcatcher will tell you that voters' ages matter very much to
politicians. The reasons are quite simple: there are far
more people aged 30-90+ than there are 18-29; the percentage of older
people who vote is much higher than that of young people; older people
are more likely to have large amounts of money to donate to candidates;
and perhaps most importantly, older people are more likely to be
land/home owners, small businessmen, or civic leaders, and therefore
are more useful to politicians who want to leverage their local
influence.
You misunderstood me. I was saying since when
does age matter in regards to the validity of an opinion, not in the
regards of obvious demographic information.
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thellama73
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 16:30 |
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I also doubt the people voting for Washington or Lincoln were alive during their presidencies.
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