I love Phil Collins

The title is sarcastic. I just wanted to ask people about this...

Phil Collin's did a song with LIL KIM called "In the air tonight?" Please tell
me this was a Collin's song previous to this and he didn't write a song
with lil kim. Plus look at the words...

'[Phil Collins]
I can feel it coming in the air tonight
Oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment
For all my life
Oh Lord, Oh Lord

[Lil' Kim]
Keep still in the sh*t, killin the rhyme
The Queen stay poppin the wine and cockin the nine
For those who think they stoppin my dough
Wanna copy my show, wha
I'm switchin my flow, can't take it no mo'
Oh you think I'm playin around
I'm layin ya down
Album drop, new millenium shuttin it down
Better off givin it up, I'm rippin it up
Spendin money, livin it up, not givin a f**k

Hiding the tote, runnin the coast
Makin niggas catch the Holy Ghost
I'm realer than most, wha
The trendsetter, the Brooklyn repper
You know the routine
Smoke you like a ciggarette-r
We've been, out in a bit
Y'all still talkin sh*t
Ain't that a bitch?
What part of the game was this?

[Lil' Kim singing]
Millions I'm holdin'
Drop tops rollin'
Diamonds on my neck
And Bentley ballin'
Me and my niggas gettin' high all day
Straight to the top, cuz we on our way

[Lil' Kim rapping]
Comin' for y'all, comin' for y'all
That's right I got something for y'all
Something for y'all, wha
God bless me, look at all I've been through
It's my time, I can feel it, can't you?

Chorus:

[Phil Collins]
I can feel it coming in the air tonight
Oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment
For all my life
Oh Lord

Can you feel it coming in the air tonight?
Oh Lord, Oh Lord


[DJ Clark Kent]
JM, JM
Lil' Kim, Lil' Kim
PC, PC
Clark

[Phil Collins]
Well I remember..

[Lil' Kim]
...back when it used to be the eighties
Said the world was gon' end in 2000 (that's crazy)
I'm the only thing to fear
For the new year
New year, and if BIG was here (woo)
Get the fans, we the ones to talk
We die real on the streets
So watch where you walk
And you can find me, usually
Talkin' dirty to a cat thugged out
Or even kinda nerdy
Lil' Kim, Lil' Cease and JM
Taking over like a plague on a town
All y'all can do is pray and watch it go down
Like when the ball drop
My fam's all I got, we keep it gangsta

Comin' for y'all, comin' for y'all
That's right I got something for y'all
Something for y'all, wha
God bless me, look at all I've been through
It's my time, I can feel it, can't you?

[Phil Collins]

Well, if you told me, you were drowning
I would not a lend a hand
I've seen your face before my friend
But I don't know if you know who I am
Well I was there and I saw what you did
Saw it with my own two eyes
So you can wipe off that grin
I know where you've been
It's all been a pack of lies

[Phil Collins]
I can feel it coming in the air tonight
Oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment
For all my life
Oh Lord, Oh Lord

I can feel it coming in the air tonight
Oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment
All my life
Oh Lord, Oh Lord"

It's a disgrace that he would even let her use it for those words.

Argh, I didn't think anyone could make this song worse than it already is!  I'm not a huge fan of Phil's solo career.

That's why I don't like hip-hop/rap on the whole...


Edited by Geck0

I know the song in question, but in my head I keep getting Chris de Burgh's Lady In Red..., why is that?

I think it's because of this:

I've never seen you looking so lovely as you did tonight...

Nothing in common except the word tonight...

Strange.

This Lil' Kim sample song/rap sounds worse than that Puff Daddy/Pee Diddy-dum-diddy-do sample of that Led Zeppelin track he did with Jimmy Page.

I love Phil:

a) he drummed on all the best Genesis albums

b) he sang on Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering, Seconds Out and And Then There Were Three...

c) he's a driving force behind the possible reunion of the Genesis classic line up, and gracious enough to pass the mic back to Peter

Brand X is the name you're looking for.

I actually was glad when he took over the reigns after Gabriel left. Of course, no one knew then what was going to happen to the music of Genesis...

Thanks for clearing that up Hibou!

I do have to say that Phil Collins can actually sing, I find his voice similar to Gabriel's on some of the stuff I've heard.  I've yet to investigate Genesis yet, I will one day..., I'm not a usual progster, I start with VdGG and work my way back!


Edited by Geck0

TheProgtologist wrote: Trotsky wrote: Geck0 wrote: Argh, I didn't think anyone could make this song worse than it already is!  I actually think the original In The Air Tonight is a fantastic song ... and worth more than the rest of Phil Collins' solo career put together ... The song gives me chills ... in a good way I agree,it is a great tune.

Yeah, I'm not too big (in fact, not big at all) on radio hits or Phil Collins solo
career so I have never heard the song. As long as I cleared up that Phil
Collins didn't collaborate with lil kim to write this song. But why would he
give her the rights to destroy one of his songs?

BiGi wrote: WHY? WHY?WHY? WHY IN THE WORLD???? Why must hip-hop "artists" always think they've got the right to spoil beautiful songs with their unbearable stuff??? In the air tonight is a great song... Hip-hop, r'n'b and the like all suck!!!

Phil Collins, along with many artists dont look at their music like their fans might. They see their songs as products, the rights to which can be purchased by other artists or producers. On the one hand Phil Collins will tell you what a personal song - inspired by his marriage breakdown - 'In the air tonight' is. Then he'll allow it to be b*stardised and homogenised like that.

I'm sure you'll find that most pop/rock stars have very little integrity when it comes down to making money. Look at that w*nker Macartney flogging the rights to the Beatles catalogue to his idot friend Jacko. Then years later flapping about whose name should come first on the credits to some songs, his or Lennons. Arseholes, the lot of them..

It's a good job they have the talent to entertain us, they'd have nothing going for them otherwise..

 

BiGi wrote: WHY? WHY?WHY? WHY IN THE WORLD???? Why must hip-hop "artists" always think they've got the right to spoil beautiful songs with their unbearable stuff??? In the air tonight is a great song... Hip-hop, r'n'b and the like all suck!!!

Because they lack creativity mostly. There are some good rappers out there, not my style at 43 but still recognisable as good. The problem is most of them are record company brands and just dish out ' shock' material. It is what sells these days unfortunately. Floyd gave wyclif jean ' Wish You Were Here'. I mean really, personally I find that almost blasphemous but hey you won't and can't stop the gravy train

Collins's debut album, Face Value was a classic, and he did cover versions of a certain John Lennon so go figure!!!

Blacksword wrote: Trotsky wrote: Blacksword wrote: many artists dont look at their music like their fans might. They see their songs as products, the rights to which can be purchased by other artists or producers. On the one hand Phil Collins will tell you what a personal song - inspired by his marriage breakdown - 'In the air tonight' is. Then he'll allow it to be b*stardised and homogenised like that. I'm sure you'll find that most pop/rock stars have very little integrity when it comes down to making money. Look at that w*nker Macartney flogging the rights to the Beatles catalogue to his idot friend Jacko. Then years later flapping about whose name should come first on the credits to some songs, his or Lennons. Arseholes, the lot of them.. It's a good job they have the talent to entertain us, they'd have nothing going for them otherwise.. I certainly agree about the artists not looking at music the way their fans do ... whcih is why we see songs used on ads (had a thread about that just a few days ago) ... and also a bunch of collaboratorations that have most of us cringing ... Elton John and Blue, Queen and Five, Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy, Sting and Craig David, Santana and Michelle Branch ... the list is endless ... I heard a different story about the Beatles catalougue though, Blacksword ... Apparently the pair became friends and recorded a couple of tracks together (Say Say Say and The Girl Is Mine) and then Jacko was so inspired that he oubid Macca when the Beatles catalogue came up for auction .. Macca was furious and they haven't spoken since ...  that's the story I heard at least ... You could be right. But I think the critical point here, was why was the catalogue up for auction in the first place? I'm sure Macartney could have vetoed any decision by the record company to put it up for sale. Surely an artist has that right?? Maybe not.. A good example of how certian songs can end up with unfortunate asscociations is 'Everybody Hurts' by REM. Michael Stipe said it now belonged to the people, and is used as the soundtrack to every human tragedy that unfolds in the world. He now says it's not an REM song, but an advert for misery and despair, and he hates it.

Check out Guardian article below ... apparently not McCartney's decision ... he didn't own Beatles songs ... no wonder artists can get so cynical ...

Jackson angers ex-Beatles

Fellow artist who bought publishing rights 'cheapened' songs by using them in adverts

Angella Johnson
Monday November 6, 1995
The Guardian