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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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I'm thinking of stuff like Who's Next, Led Zeppelin IV, Deep Purple in Rock, etc. Do you have other examples of classic rock albums that are close to the edge of prog?
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Uriah Heep—The Magician's Birthday
The Incredible Sting Band—ITKOS Black Contry Communion—IV
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In the northeast of the United States and around Boston, Quill was a well-liked local attraction. Almost every member of the band could play many instruments, and they had a habit of switching them up while performing. At any moment during a set, guitarists and keyboardists will switch to horns, cellos, or woodwind instruments. Aside from being unexpected, the music itself has a unique, purposefully bizarre sound that falls between early British progressive rock and American psychedelic rock. The songs themselves have equally ridiculous titles, and the band members are all credited under wigged-out pseudonyms. The most noticeable instrument is frequently the bass guitar. Sonically, it's sparsely realised despite the performers' diverse skill sets, filled by barely audible organs and pianos as well as mixed-back guitars and drums. The arrangements seem to be casual and improvised, a style that can only be achieved with extremely meticulous planning and orchestration. Loaded with social satire, the lyrics depart significantly from the popular hippy abandon of the time, and the backing tracks feature an odd assortment of chord progressions and modulations. The way it transitions between songs, and sometimes even within a single track, can be erratic. They performed at Woodstock in 1969, but owing to technical difficulties, only a few minutes of their performance were filmed. Thus, Quill didn't feature in the Woodstock movie. Probably the destiny of this gifted band would have been very different if they had been in the film. Following the release of their self-titled album in 1970, they broke up. |
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Valdez1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2024 Location: Walla Walla Wa Status: Offline Points: 351 |
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I think WIRE “154” is proggiest. What a great album. Shreikback also has a proggy sort of style. The Stranglers “Dreamtime” also does it for me. Quadrophenia, DSotM, Zappa, Roxy Music.
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Criswell ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2023 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 660 |
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City Boy and 10cc come to mind...
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Quadrophenia without a doubt. Meat Loaf's Bat out of Hell (the first one) is not prog but has some proggy elements and arrangements. The 3rd side of Extreme's Three Sides to Every Story. Quite a lot of early Queen.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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To avoid mentioning repeats... I want to say classic Moodies or Procol Harum
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46372 |
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I think both are progressive rock, call them art-rock, crossover, proto-prog, all these tags are correct IMO.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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I can't argue with that, but... Some users already mentioned the likes of Who, Uriah Heep, etc... so I didn't figure I was off the ball Where do we draw the line? The eternal question bears repeating I guess
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A few Uriah Heep albums fit under heavy-prog, others are just hard rock. My bad, hope this thread does not reach the "what is prog?" arguing again...
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The Who Queen Supertramp Radiohead Deep Purple Rainbow Sabbath Tull take your pick
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Valdez1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2024 Location: Walla Walla Wa Status: Offline Points: 351 |
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Yes. Radiohead. Supertramp. the who. I always thought Tull was a long time sure thing. Sabbath , Queen and Rainbow not so much. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38233 |
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I see Prog as a spectrum and an umbrella, and it's an impossible question for me to answer partially as there is no clear dividing line between Prog and non-Prog and there is much I have not heard. The Prog/non-Prog dichotomy commonly does not work for me even when it comes to limiting itself to classic rock. Still, since I a team player and adaptable,
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5824 |
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Precisely. There's no distinction between the least proggy prog album and the proggiest non-prog album like there is between the cheapest Gibson and the most expensive Epiphone for example!
I mean, when does a non-prog album become a prog album? Where's the divide? Is it determined by the Progarchives label? That's ridiculous imho. I mean, let's ask ourselves this: when does a dialect become a language? The answer is: when a certain reliable/trustworthy group/panel or community says so and enough people agree with them to the point, it is encyclopedially accepted. But for music, this mythical "prog amount" is even trickier to agree upon because there are so many variables and they're all different for each subgenre, style or even mood of the album. In addition to that, the perception of musical style can be really really different from person to person, even when each one is an expert on musicology. Edited by Hrychu - April 22 2024 at 09:27 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38233 |
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^ Very well-expressed.
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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It's the equivalent of asking 'how long is a piece of string?'.
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Romantic Warrior by Return to Forever
Abbey Road by The Beatles The 5th Symphony by Beethoven. Toccata and Fugue in d minor by JS Bach
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Long live Progresive music!
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"Heaven and Hell" by Black Sabbath
"Force It" by UFO "Captain Beyond" by Captain Beyond "Queen 2" by Queen ...and so forth. Lots to choose from.
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If song cycles, segues, and sound effects connecting songs is one's idea of prog (being reared on Floyd, it is for me!), then this first album by Joe Walsh is one I always adored (especially side 1's song cycle):
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