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A Crimson Mellotron ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2020 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 5665 |
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Fellow forum users, what are in your opinion the most accessible prog albums (doesn't matter which decade)? These may be albums by very well-known bands or more underground acts that you believe (or they have proved so) to appeal to a wider audience. I am curious to see what the recommendations will be.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Online Points: 15146 |
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The thing with "accessible" is that different things are accessible to different people, and there is no "general wider audience" taste. For example, there is a big number of music lovers around who are not generally prog fans but appreciate Tool a lot, and I surely wouldn't think of their music as "most accessible", but in fact they are (maybe not "most" but quite), if the citerion is appreciation outside the "prog world". That said, I tend to think that the timeless and global appeal of Dark Side of the Moon and maybe also WYWH is unmatched in the prog world.
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DSOTM, Aqualung, Moving Pictures, OK Computer, Kind Of Blue (I joke I joke)
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18058 |
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Hi,
Honestly, and without meaning anything bad, if you have to concentrate on some silly detail about it all, then you are not into "music" ... just into your favorites. There is a lot of music out there, and some fits and some doesn't into your request, but sadly, your request seems to be trying hard to simplify your ability to find these bands, and not get the proper feel about anyone's music, which is what all this is about. It's not about you and I, the listener, and we have to stop that illusion (because we all have different ideas and requests!) ... it's about the art in it, and nothing else. And why would you want to remove a color from a painting? You're not the painter! Music is the same in a different medium.
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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The Yes Album
Dark Side Of The Moon Wish You Were Here The Whirlwind (Transatlantic) Mirage (Camel) Snow Goose (Camel) |
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A Crimson Mellotron ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2020 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 5665 |
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On a side note, I am curious why brought up the 'It's not about the listener' argument; And if we have to be realistic, it is often about the listener, and it has been like that for centuries, if I may say. After all, if all the music we are listening to daily (I guess this is the listening frequency of most forum users here) was not about the listener (to an extent), why would the artists that recorded it release it and not keep it all for themselves? It is an argument that could go on forever, because there are different aspects and points of view to this, but unfortunately this is not the point of the thread at all. Besides, I appreciate your reply, despite the fact that I find it redundant.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37153 |
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That's something that Pedro has brought up again and again in different threads. I've tried to argue against it, or at least present a different perspective, but the song remains the same. Anyway, I won't persist in continuing in this quite irrelevant to the intent route. Perhaps that topic should have its own thread and we can have a serious debate there, hopefully one that also involves dialectic (not about winning an argument, but more discussion and active "listening" to and consideration of other perspectives).
I'm with Lewian on this and would have said something very similar. What is accessible to one depends on their tastes and what they have been exposed to. One I will mention is Caravan's The Land of Grey and Pink. I think that would be accessible to many not yet into the Canterbury Scene and has mainstream appeal. In fact, I've noticed that many who don't generally like, or have been exposed to, Canterbury Scene acts do like that album. With Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, I tend to think of that as more of mainstream classic art rock album than a Prog album per se. I'm going to try to think of more underground or lesser known albums. A more modern one that comes to mind is Bent Knee's Shiny Eyed Babies. |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18058 |
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Hi, Without the "media", for years the art, or any music was pretty much about who heard what. There might be some likes and dislikes, sort of like in a bar or a theater when the song is blah, or the play is getting too mushy and not interesting. In general, and I don't mean that this is its "history", from the artist's point of view, the majority of the music has LESS to do with the audience, than it does with the ARTIST who has come up with an idea/vision, that allowed the piece of music to come alive, or the play, or the novel. In that "inner" world, there is a lot less about the audience than there is about your ability and mine to get an "approval" from someone else, although many usually would use their close friends whose thoughts they tended to trust, but rarely would they interfere with the actual work. (Check out the Philip Roth special! ) The 20th century is a perfect example of this "inner" thing that is not about the public or the "fan" as is better said today. The "individuality" of the work, has been the staple of the majority of the great arts ... and that has a lot less to do with the fan, or audience. Remember FZ? Getting upset and putting down the guitar and conducting the rest of the show! The request from the OP is a problem FROM MY SEEING EYE. He is asking for an "external" view of the pieces of music, which is NOT the actual intent of the majority of the arts ... and this IN THE END will be far more confusing to the understanding and studies of the artist than any other ideas. It's not about Pedro being different. It's about the difference between the inner artist, and what the outer fans want from an artist ... which to me (and I'm biased in favor of the artist ALWAYS) ... is just a thing for the 20th century fans, and not what will be remembered. Look ... how many songs do you remember and can quote a line from 450/500 years ago? Or 100 years ago for that matter so you can decide what to go listen to! To me, that's a sign of an inner dichotomy of what the arts/artist is all about!
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Any albums by Barclay James Harmless.
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We have a sub-genre devoted to that sort of music... crossover. With that in mind, I don't think there is prog much more accessible than Supertramp, or perhaps The Alan Parsons Project, or for more modern listeners, Radiohead. |
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Neo Prog.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43316 |
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I'll go along with what my friend from a land down under said about Crossover Prog, adding the Moody Blues and Mike Oldfield to the previously mentioned Alan Parsons Project, Barclay James Harvest and Supertramp, but not Radiohead.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18905 |
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Interesting question.
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail, Nursery Cryme The Flower Kings - Space Revolver Yes - Drama, Close to the Edge, 90125 (if it can be called prog), The Yes Album Jethro Tull - Aqualung IQ - Ever Marillion - Mispaced Childhood |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Online Points: 15146 |
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Kate Bush - Hounds of Love. Maybe her proggiest, and massively popular for good reasons.
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I recommend you check out Harry Sabar & Friends - Lentera (1979). It's so accessible it verges on even being prog. But the songwriting on the album is really good.
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The Residents - "Eskimo."
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As Lewian mentioned, "accessible" is different for everyone. I agree. Anyway...
Kansas - Leftoverture Steely Dan - Aja Jean-Luc Ponty - Enigmatic Ocean Pat Metheny Group - The Road to You Bill Bruford - One of a Kind Frost* - Milliontown Porcupine Tree - In Absentia |
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I think sales generally lend a decent insight into what the general populace find the most accessible. Not that truly accessible stuff doesn't fall through the crack for some other reason (poor promotion, bad release timing, etc. etc.), but my gut feeling is that's the minority.
So certainly the answer would seem to be Dark Side Of The Moon.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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I often come across music that many call accessible, but which is inaccessible to me because I simply find it boring or uninteresting.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21296 |
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You mean Grammy winning, multi platinum selling Radiohead aren't accessible?
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