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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Is the very term 'political science' an oxymoron?
Politics is based very much on perspective and interpretation, rather like religious faith, and far less based in verified fact. In science, a hypothesis is validated by factual data, and if the data doesn't support the hypothesis, the hypothesis is discarded. In politics the opposite is usually true. If a hypothesis is not not validated by data, the data is discarded, or the hypothesis re-written to fit the data. Discuss. Nicely.. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15175 |
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Political science is science in the sense of investigating scientifically how politics works, which is fine by me, although the term "science of politics" would make that clearer, I guess.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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It is if you interpret it that way.
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Yep, I think it more appropriate to describe the discipline as Political Sociology to avoid the inevitable charges of inconsistencies with the hypothetical proofs required by natural sciences (biology, chemistry, physics) and formal sciences (logic, mathematics)
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You have to remember that English words have multiple meanings and shades of nuances depending on the field of study to which they relate. Just read the more comprehensive definition of the word SCIENCE and it's quite clear that when coupled with an adjectival descriptor that it's perfectly logical to create word groupings such as POLITICAL SCIENCE. sci·ence(sī′əns)n. 1. a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena: new advances in science and technology. b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena: the science of astronomy. 2. A systematic method or body of knowledge in a given area: the science of marketing. 3. Archaic Knowledge, especially that gained through experience. |
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Or political philosophy... ![]() |
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Very good point. |
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no, it is not. I suggest you look up the meaning of "oxymoron" because it does NOT mean "contradiction in terms", as many people (and apparently you too) falsely use the word. an oxymoron is a rhetorical device that combines two apparent opposites to illustrate a point and thereby creates a new meaning. examples are "bittersweet", "deafening silence" or "open secret". "political science" does most definitely not fall into that category Edited by BaldJean - December 04 2019 at 18:23 |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13232 |
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If you are referring to the current crop of Republicans in Washington, then yes, "Political Science" is indeed an oxymoron. In fact, one could make the case that "science" has been totally divorced from "politics" at this point.
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Why pick on Republicans when the two party system very much uses the scientific process and psychological manipulation to convince the masses to forgo the collective freewill and give consent to the economic slavery system that is bestowed upon us by the tentacles of the US corporation. Yes, if you are a citizen, you are a member of a corporation, not a citizen of the actual republic. As the masterminds consolidate these tactics into what is referred to as Earth Inc, it is becoming more clear that the political scene is tantamount to Kabuki theatre and doesn't display any sort of representation for the populace. In other words, the Dems are in on it. The democratic congress just renewed the patriot act. Nuff said
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You may be partially right, in an Orwellian full-blown paranoiac sense; however, looking at the current political situation and removing the patina of neurosis, one can plainly see a president and his political lackeys not only devoid of any interest in the scientific method, but actively espousing anti-intellectualism, ridding government agencies of any oversight from research and scientific safeguards: the EPA is run by lobbyists for fossil fuel companies, any mention of climate change is being stricken from the record, sensible environmental policies instituted by previous Democratic and Republican presidents are being eliminated, and, in a more political vein, crackpot conspiracy theories debunked by the country's own intelligence agencies continue to be fervently repeated which fly in the face of every report to the contrary issued by qualified individuals, many of whom were put in their positions by the president himself. In a race for sanity between a pair of weevils, one should always choose the lesser of two weevils.
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^ if you think the Patriot Act is a conspiracy theory, you've been spending too much time in the dark, dude
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^ I wasn't referring to the Patriot Act, which has literally nothing to do with what I was referring to. Try to follow along. Actually, you should be more upset about the Republican majority Supreme Court's absurd ruling on Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, thus allowing "corporate personhood" and uncounted millions in dark money to basically buy politicians.
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It is a term that is lazily used incorrectly. I agree. I stand guilty and deeply ashamed. Maybe lose the oxy, and just go with the moron bit... ![]() |
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As I see it, the question is based on a category error in that you are confusing the study of a subject with the subject itself. In other words, political science is not the same as politics, and any flaws that may exist in politics are not flaws in political science, even if political science has flaws of its own. |
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The Wikipedia article on "oxymoron" has this to say: An oxymoron (usual plural oxymorons, more rarely oxymora) is a rhetorical device that uses an ostensible self-contradiction to illustrate a rhetorical point or to reveal a paradox. A more general meaning of "contradiction in terms" (not necessarily for rhetoric effect) is recorded by the OED for 1902. Interestingly, because "oxy" means sharp, and "moron" means dull, "oxymoron" is autological, i.e. it is itself an example of an oxymoron. |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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^ Should 'anal retentive' have a hyphen? Discuss.
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How do you place an equivalency on these injustices? Don't you see how they're connected? The US effectively became a corporation with the creation of Washington DC in 1871. It's all about making contractual agreements with the US corporation which nullifies constitutional rights. The answer is to withdraw from the corporation and seek sovereignty. Getting upset about Godzilla while he destroys Tokyo while contributing one's energy to his mass destruction on a daily basis is tantamount to being a secondary psychopath. Unplug and don't construct ridiculous hierarchies of legislative tyranny when is all of the same energetic body.
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![]() Edited by SteveG - December 05 2019 at 10:40 |
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Yes. The Wiktionary entry on "anal retentive" says that it's an alternative spelling of "anal-retentive", implying that "anal-retentive" is the main spelling. |
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