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    Posted: April 16 2019 at 22:24
My name is Luke Simpson. I got into prog when in 11th grade I was in Academic Decathlon and my friend's dad drove me to the big challenge match or whatever it was to compete academically, as we used to do in those days. See on the drive to the event, my friend's dad put on ELP's Brain Salad Surgery and upon hearing Toccatta for the first time my life had been irreparably shattered forever and for all time, since I'd wasted so much of my life listening to pleb music. It was like "oh wait, all I've known so far is garbage, this is the real music."

I mean, not really, I'm not actually a snob and I still like a lot of non-prog music, but for some reason I felt like telling the story that way.

For instance, I was a huge fan of the Meat Puppets, and the Meat Puppets got me into King Crimson (not ELP, as weird as that is). See, I'd read biographical info on the E and the L and the P in ELP, and so at this point I knew KC only as the band Greg Lake was in prior to ELP, but I'd never bothered to go listen to any KC. So when Meat Puppets fans started telling me that I'd really like King Crimson, I was like, "well, okay." And so I got my hands on Court and ConstruKction, and then I was like, "oh wow, so prog is, like, really varied and diverse and all that."

And so on. Anyway, hi.
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Welcome--  great story !






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Welcome to the Archives from a fellow King Crimson fan (and ELP for that matter).  There are a lot of great bands and artists here.  I hope you are able to discover a lot of music that you will enjoy.

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Welcome Erenan! I love KC too (ELP not so much), but great to have yyou here.

Are you into any other prog other than KC and ELP?
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Thanks!
 
Sorry for the delay. I've been busy trying to think of an excuse for why I couldn't respond and it prevented me from responding until now.
 
I'm into KC extremely intensely, they're my favorite band and I got all their albums and know them by heart, I even buy the solo albums and other work of e.g. Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, Tony Levin, etc., etc., etc. Same for Meat Puppets (not prog, of course).
 
I'm "into" ELP mostly in the sense that they're important to me as being my entry to prog. I consider Brain Salad Surgery a masterpiece and it's one of my favorite albums. I am very familiar with their other work but don't revere it quite to the same extent.
 
I'm not into any other prog bands in the same way that I'm into KC, but I do have an intense fondness for a few particular albums by some other groups:
- Gentle Giant's Octopus
- Wobbler's From Silence to Somewhere
- Atrox's Contentum
- Probably some others that I am blanking on right now
 
(Historically, another early favorite of mine is Dream Theater from Images and Words through Metropolis Pt. 2, but tbqh I don't enjoy listening to DT any more at all. I think they are not an interesting band and whenever people gush about them my reaction is an intense visceral feeling in my gut that might best be describe as "ok if we were talking about our favorite comedy troupes I'd agree they're a great pick.")
 
The big mainstays of prog are mostly a mystery to me: Yes, Rush, Genesis, etc., I don't know much about these groups and don't especially care. (Actually, Yes seems obviously like an amazing group and I should really explore them. What I've listened to of Rush kinda bores me, same with Genesis.)
 
Part of the reason I'm here is because I want to find more bands that I can get into more fully in the way that I'm into King Crimson. I am thinking about starting a series of blog posts where I go through the "Eclectic Prog" category of the archives and listen to those artists and write about my reactions as a way of exploring artists I'm not familiar with. (recommendations vis a vis Eclectic Prog would be super appreciated btw)
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Try the Mighty Graaf, mate.

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Ok
 
I did listen to part of one of their albums exactly one time and I don't remember which one. I think it might have been Godbluff? IIRC I was not exactly floored, but will try again.
 
Can you recommend a specific album? I'm drawn to very outside the box music. Music with a lot of personality and character, or anything weird.
EDIT: I see the recs, thank you!


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Originally posted by Erenan Erenan wrote:

Ok
 
I did listen to part of one of their albums exactly one time and I don't remember which one. I think it might have been Godbluff? IIRC I was not exactly floored, but will try again.
 
Can you recommend a specific album? I'm drawn to very outside the box music. Music with a lot of personality and character, or anything weird.
EDIT: I see the recs, thank you!
 
I also most highly recommend Van der Graaf Generator. They changed the way I viewed music, and I was already familiar with Pink Floyd, ELP, Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson at the time. I find some of their albums take a few listens to appreciate, although Pawn Hearts was a love at first listen. H to He Who Am The Only One is an example of an album that I didn't appreciate on first listen, but is now an album that I love almost as much as Pawn Hearts.
 
 
 
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Listening to Pawn Hearts today. Sounds very very interesting. I think I'll need to absorb it more fully before I really pass judgement. The first listen is never really enough to decide properly. I feel like it's great but there's something about it that's stopping me from loving it and I'm seriously at a loss of what it is. I'll just listen more and see how I feel afterwards.

Thanks again for the recs!
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Originally posted by Erenan Erenan wrote:

Listening to Pawn Hearts today. Sounds very very interesting. I think I'll need to absorb it more fully before I really pass judgement. The first listen is never really enough to decide properly. I feel like it's great but there's something about it that's stopping me from loving it and I'm seriously at a loss of what it is. I'll just listen more and see how I feel afterwards.

Thanks again for the recs!
 
How about Magma? Start with Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh to see if you like this type of music.
 
How about The Residents? I don't know the best place to start but perhaps Duck Stab / Buster & Glen will give some idea about what to expect.
 
 
 
 
 


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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Erenan Erenan wrote:

Listening to Pawn Hearts today. Sounds very very interesting. I think I'll need to absorb it more fully before I really pass judgement. The first listen is never really enough to decide properly. I feel like it's great but there's something about it that's stopping me from loving it and I'm seriously at a loss of what it is. I'll just listen more and see how I feel afterwards.

Thanks again for the recs!
 
How about Magma? Start with Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh to see if you like this type of music.
 
How about The Residents? I don't know the best place to start but perhaps Duck Stab / Buster & Glen will give some idea about what to expect.

my favorite album by the Residents is "Eskimo":




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Yes for older material from The Residents, your best bets are what the last two members mentioned: "Duck Stab/Buster & Glen" or "Eskimo".  If you want to hear a good album that is more recent from them, try "Coochie Brake".

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You like KC - you will like ANEKDOTEN (from Sweden).
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Thanks for all of the recommendations. I'll get to listening to all of these! Thank you thank you thank you
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Erenan Erenan wrote:

Listening to Pawn Hearts today. Sounds very very interesting. I think I'll need to absorb it more fully before I really pass judgement. The first listen is never really enough to decide properly. I feel like it's great but there's something about it that's stopping me from loving it and I'm seriously at a loss of what it is. I'll just listen more and see how I feel afterwards.

Thanks again for the recs!
 
How about Magma? Start with Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh to see if you like this type of music.
 
How about The Residents? I don't know the best place to start but perhaps Duck Stab / Buster & Glen will give some idea about what to expect.

my favorite album by the Residents is "Eskimo":



Like my wife I love "Eskimo". One should definitely read the sleeve notes when first listening to the album; else it won't make much sense.


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That's definitely useful to know! I have found that some albums require looking at the booklet while listening in order to work.
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If you haven't heard Bubu's Anabelas yet, I would recommend it.

You might also find much in Zeuhl and in RIO/Avant to love. Eskton's 4 Visions, and Dun's Eros are a couple of good ones in Zeuhl to start with, then into the mighty Magma, and the classic rock In Opposition bands could prove very rewarding (Art Zoyd is a particular favourite of mine, but I think I got into Present first).

And for weird Prog Folk, Comus' First Utterance is must listening.
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Okay, I will definitely explore Zeuhl. Been wondering what that is about. Thank you for the specific recs
 
I listened to Anekdoten, Until All the Ghosts are Gone, found it very appealing.
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^ Vemod is most Crimson-like from them. They haven’t released a weak album at all.
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