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    Posted: September 20 2005 at 18:02

Proof that there is now hope for classical symphonic prog!!!

I just got the Inconsolable Secret and Shadowlands.  I cried....

I seriously wonder why these guys aren't held up with higher classics such as SB, Transatlantic and The Flower Kings..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 18:16
I certainly have enjoyed what I have bought from them. I would put them in the same league as those others you mention. I can't wait to get the new one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 18:24
Oh yes, I have always thought that Glass Hammer are a very underrated band too. Everything since Chronometree is just perfect
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 18:24
Originally posted by progaeopteryx progaeopteryx wrote:

I certainly have enjoyed what I have bought from them. I would put them in the same league as those others you mention. I can't wait to get the new one.


Yeah, don't miss out on The Inconsolable Secret, I've really fallen in love after only 2 listens, it may be their best.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 19:36

Hi Gang,

The new album The Inconsolable Secret is a killer and perhaps their best one to date. All the ELP/YES influences are still present in the first disc (the Emersonic hammond solos are great) and the second offers very charming tracks.

GLASS HAMMER = EXCELLENT CURRENT KEYBOARD DRIVEN PROG

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 19:45
They are from my hometown, where my family still lives while I am away at college.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 20:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 20:19
From Chronometree onward I really like them.The only problem I have with The Inconsolable Secret is that I think disc 2 has a little too much filler.Shadowlands is an absolute masterpiece.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 02:57

Shadowlands is superb!

At first I was a bit dubious that an American band should want to play such 'English' sounding symphonic prog, why not celebrate their American-ness, but they are excellent at what they do, so why not?!

I have have the one album so far, but there are several more, including Lex Rex and the latest one (Inconsolable Secret?) on my to get list.

I'm glad I found this band, and it's thanks to Prog Archives that I did.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 03:56
I have both Lex Rex and Chronomotree; the first I really like, the second I can take or leave to be honest; although I really appreciate the musicianship, the vocals on this one grate with me a bit...does anyone feel the same?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 04:00
I bought the inconsolable Secret last week and my initial impressions is that I like what I've heard so far. I will say that the mix sounds a little flat in places but hey, that's just my opinion. I bought the Live DVD as well and the sound on that sucka was much better. Like most bands in a live concert environment, the sound and the songs had a lot more 'edge' to them which I love.

More power to you ladies and gents in Glass Hammer.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 05:12

Fandango: I would agree that the male lead vocals are the weakest part of the Glass Hammer machine. But I love the female harmonies.

Sigod: The first negative thing that jumped out at me about 'Shadowlands' was some flaws in the production, or at least what I regarded as flaws. Certain things too loud, some things too quiet etc. Not a duff track on the album IMO, but they could have been better with a better producer, but hey, a good song will always be a good song whoever the producer. Besides I've heard worse.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 05:28

They are one of the best modern symphonic prog bands and fast becoming one of my very favourite bands along with ELP,Yes etc.Fred Schendel is a masterfull keyboard player..great chops! They write music with striking melodies and containing excellent compositional qualities.Production is also flawless on all the CD's I have.I can't help but go back and listen to them time and time again.

btw don't forget the Lex Live DVD..its a real gem along with all the albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 05:33
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

They are one of the best modern symphonic prog bands and fast becoming one of my very favourite bands along with ELP,Yes etc.Fred Schendel is a masterfull keyboard player..great chops! They write music with striking melodies and containing excellent compositional qualities.Production is also flawless on all the CD's I have.I can't help but go back and listen to them time and time again.

btw don't forget the Lex Live DVD..its a real gem along with all the albums.

I've more of their work to get, but they could become one of my favourite bands too

Maybe, I'm too critical when it comes to production.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 09:01

I've always thought GH had the potential for greatness but were let down by flaws in the production (as Blacksword says) e.g. the annoyingly loud keyboards in "Run Lisette".

I reckoned they've cracked it with the Inconsolable Secret though. A double prog concept album with a Roger Dean cover - what more can you want?

Great keyboard, great drumming, could do with more of the female vocals. As long as you don't mind the lyrics ("Once upon a time there were three knights and a king") then it's great.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 12:09
Indeed, a recent discovery for me and now I've snapped up everything from Chronometree on.
I do have to say though that in keeping with a lot of modern prog the lyrics are abysmal. As mentioned the 'Once upon a time there were three three knights and a king' is pretty hideous but Lex Rex is troubled by the same awful wordsmithery.
Funnily on Shadowlands it doesn't bother me as much, maybe it's cause the tunes are better.
I think, though, that I'm one of the few who has reservations about Inconsolable Secret.
There's some outstanding playing on the album and the melodies are really good in places but I do think they overstretched themselves. I find it meanders a bit and the long, long songs lack structure in places. Also I reckon the second CD is largely a waste of time. If I wanted to hear a sub-par soundtrack to Lord of the Rings, I would have gone out and bought the Lord of the Rings OST (), or GH's dreadful Middle Earth album. To me the stuff on the second CD of Inconsolable sounds like a cross between bad Clannad and Gryphon (without the good parts of either). In fact I think all those little instrumentals sound like a demo CD GH made for movie producers. i'm sure they're mail-shotting studios with it as we speak.
It would have made a great one CD set.
By contrast Shadowlands is a great album, solid, to the point, no filler. They should learn the lessons of that album - and judging by the comments above many people feel this is GH's best.
I agree that the production is sometimes a little obvious and a little slapdash but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment too much.
I will say though that the addition of a drummer with real drums has really given them the credible edge they needed. All those sampled drums on the earlier albums really suck.
They've nicely addressed the vocal problems too. On Chronometree they're terrible./ On Shadowlands and Inconsolable they're, for the most part, excellent.
It sounds like I'm dissing them completely but they only have a few failings and along with the Flower Kings, I think they're the best contemporary retro symphonic outfit out there.
I never get the ELP comparisons though. To me they sound most like a mix between Yes and Kansas.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 12:12

glass hammer is a very underrated band!

i have shadowland, and i always found it very "yes-going for the one" oriented, especially Run Lisette!

shadowland is definitely among my top albums of the third millenium!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 12:14
Maybe the most unoriginal sounding prog band I like, but I do like them, certainly!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 15:41
Originally posted by arcer arcer wrote:


I never get the ELP comparisons though. To me they sound most like a mix between Yes and Kansas.

I don't think their music is particularly ELP-like, but it's the organ sound that does it. There are a couple of solos on The Inconsolable Secret that could be from Tarkus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 15:59
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by arcer arcer wrote:


I never get the ELP comparisons though. To me they sound most like a mix between Yes and Kansas.

I don't think their music is particularly ELP-like, but it's the organ sound that does it. There are a couple of solos on The Inconsolable Secret that could be from Tarkus.


Tarkus you say? ELP-like organ you say? I shall have to edit out those sections using Soundforge then and write a stern letter of reprimand to Mr G Hammer.

And BTW.... who'd have thought that this guy Glass would have such wonderfully opposing musical taste to that of his baggy-trousered brother MC.... wonders will never cease.


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