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condor 
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 Topic: Have you ever believed in god?
Posted: November 26 2015 at 14:43 |
A god, that is, that answers prayers: a personal god And I mean a belief that is genuine, not one out of personal desperation but reasoned thought..?
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Icarium
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 15:49 |
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god or gods or force witch re diety like or imaginational beings for aesthetics purpose, Yes to the latter.
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HackettFan
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 16:30 |
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No. Never.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 16:40 |
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A lot of attention to religion here lately! I'm raised as a christian and always stayed.
It's a pity to see so few religious people here.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 17:04 |
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yes.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 18:05 |
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Yes, always did...wud always do.
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 18:59 |
 condor wrote:
A god, that is, that answers prayers: a personal god And I mean a belief that is genuine, not one out of personal desperation but reasoned thought..? |
God is both personal and impersonal, manifest and
unmanifest.
Reasoned thought is good but it’s only theory. Theory alone will not get you there, you need
practice. Practice what? Practice to still the mind and go beyond
thought.
I think therefore I am, says the little ego. You are neither the ego nor your
thoughts. You are the observer. You are Love and Joy; God is Love and Joy. The entrance is stillness of mind. “ Be still
and know that I am God.”
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GKR
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 19:09 |
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Nope, never.
Since child, I read about the egyptians and love the Asterix comics. And I always thought: If people in different times worshipped different gods, why this Jeovah is so especial?
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 20:01 |
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Did, then I grew up.
I do believe that if god existed he'd be the most cruel, vile, evil, and loathsome being to ever exist and completely unworthy of worship.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 20:24 |
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For a couple of weeks once
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Ian
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 20:45 |
CosmicVibration wrote:
condor wrote:
A god, that is, that answers prayers: a personal god And I mean a belief that is genuine, not one out of personal desperation but reasoned thought..? |
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<p ="Msonormal">God is both personal and impersonal, manifest and
unmanifest.
<p ="Msonormal">Reasoned thought is good but it’s only theory.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Theory alone will not get you there, you need
practice.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Practice what?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Practice to still the mind and go beyond
thought.
<p ="Msonormal">I think therefore I am, says the little ego.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>You are neither the ego nor your
thoughts.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>You are the observer.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>You are Love and Joy; God is Love and Joy.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The entrance is stillness of mind. “ Be still
and know that I am God.”
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Ozark Soundscape
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 20:47 |
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I believed in Christianity until I was about eleven but I didn't really have a proper understanding of what it meant.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: November 26 2015 at 21:03 |
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Yeah, still do. The Christian one specifically.
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 00:26 |
I did believe in God when I was a child. My mother was a Catholic and I was christened, but I didn't have a strict religious upbringing. My mother gently encouraged belief. My father (not Catholic) never spoke of it at all. I stopped believing at around age 7, but I can't remember what triggered that. I've been atheist since. I don't really have any time for religion and fail to see its point, but I'm not a "militant atheist" seeking to actually shut it down. I just think it should be ignored, or humoured like some mad aging relative.. 
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emigre80
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 00:30 |
DDPascalDD wrote:
A lot of attention to religion here lately! I'm raised as a christian and always stayed.
It's a pity to see so few religious people here. |
Why do you think it's a pity? do you think the site would be improved if more people were religious? It's not a hostile question, I'm just curious as to why you think having more religious people on PA would change anything.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 03:25 |
I was fed the usual religious BS by my grand parents (my father being atheist, my mother mostly agnostic) and by my catholic primary school (though I remember it being fairly modern education for the times), but by the time I was six or seven or eight (after the "first communion" >> done mostly to receive gifts), I decided it was stupid... I refused to do the second communion/confirmation. Soooo, nope, never really believed once I started thinking for myself
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someone_else
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 03:33 |
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I was raised in absolute freedom to choose my own faith and I am a Christian since my twenties. But I am not religious, and as far as I am, I hope to be delivered from that one day.
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VOTOMS
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 04:46 |
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 06:00 |
emigre80 wrote:
DDPascalDD wrote:
A lot of attention to religion here lately! I'm raised as a christian and always stayed.
It's a pity to see so few religious people here. |
Why do you think it's a pity? do you think the site would be improved if more people were religious?
It's not a hostile question, I'm just curious as to why you think having more religious people on PA would change anything. |
Don't conclude too fast there mate! ;p In general there are fewer and fewer christians and you can probably imagine one rather has the same thoughts/beliefs with some people than being the only one. Also I am definitely not intending that christians are per se better people which would make the world better than non-christians. So I think it's a pity that most people on PA think different. (on a forum that's kind of what you're looking for, right?) And well it wouldn't change this place enormously but maybe you'd feel a bit more welcome here as a christian. (By no means any blame to anyone)
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micky
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Posted: November 27 2015 at 06:20 |
condor wrote:
And I mean a belief that is genuine, not one out of personal desperation but reasoned thought..? |
not sure why... but that rubs me the wrong way. Sounds like you are another member of the mom and dads basement brigade Get out and live. Have your savings wiped out by medical emergencies, lose a child, experience what life really is about. Personal desperation and how you as a person deal with it. There is no better salve for the soul when life has stuck a 2x4 up your ass than faith. It keeps one going and helps provide comfort through the worst of times. It isn't a sign of mental midgity or weakness. I do damn sure believe in God, with everything I've seen and experienced. How could I not 
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