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    Posted: July 30 2015 at 17:31
I must admit I don't know as much "avant prog" as I want to. I like Koenjihyakkei very much, but I don't know much more than them. OK, Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Henry Cow, Art Bears, but not many more.

The sub-genre page says:

Quote Avant-prog is generally considered to be more extreme and 'difficult' than other forms of progressive rock, though these terms are naturally subjective and open to interpretation. Common elements that may or may not be displayed by specific avant-prog artists include:

- Regular use of dissonance and atonality.
- Extremely complex and unpredictable song arrangements.
- Free or experimental improvisation.
- Fusion of disparate musical genres.
- Polyrhythms and highly complex time signatures.


Now all that sounds good, except the part about free or experimental improvisation. I'm not looking for improvised music. Also I'm not looking for extremely slow music, or totally non-rock music like pure modern classical or jazz music. Though I like elements or influences from classical and jazz very much.
 
I would be thankful if you could recommend me some bands or artists based on these informations.
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2015 at 17:41
I'll just list a couple of current faves of mine then:-)

Samla Mammas Manna - Måltid (classic album from Sweden with lots of strange and beautiful turnovers)
Mirthkon - Vehicle (modern avant prog with a quirky reed section and a smidge of Zappa)
Miriodor - Rencontres (somewhere between Canterbury and and avant)
Fire! Orchestra - Exit (funky, psychedelic, jazzy and altogether wild)


Cue Ian....



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Great, thanks. I'm going to look up those albums.
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Here's a few that I consider classics of Avant Prog:
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Points: 24438 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2015 at 18:02
Excellent choices, even though some of those albums are not, strictly speaking, RIO/Avant prog. Waiting for my partner in crime Ian to chime in, here's some more suggestions:

Miriodor - Avanti! (one of my favourite albums of the past 20 years, hands down)
Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune (very eclectic)
Guapo - Five Suns (a true monster of an album, a must for anyone interested in contemporary RIO/Avant)
Alec K Redfearn and the Eyesores - Sister Death (utterly mesmerizing, dark Avant-Folk)
Aranis - Songs From Mirage (beautiful chamber-prog)
Five-Storey Ensemble - Not That City (closer to classical than rock, and gorgeous)
Secret Chiefs 3 - Book M (electronics meet Middle-Eastern music)

More to come soonSmile!
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Excellent previous posts, Clap Here's some more stuff (because its expected of me) LOL

Present - Barbaro (UniversZero with electric guitar)
Thinking Plague - Decline & Fall (high composed rehearsal intensive dark avant rock)
Birdsong Of The Mesozoic - The Iridium Controversy (Chamber Jazz Rock)
Far Corner - Endangered (Chamber Rock)
Jean Louis - Morse (French intense nutty jazz influenced rock)
Rational Diet - Of Phenomena & Existence (Belarus Chamber Rock)
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History (cookie monster vocals put of some but work with this music, complex avant dark metal with concepts)
Upsilon Acrux - Radian Futura (unbelievably complex intense brutal avant jazz rock)
Uz Jsme Doma - Caves (Czech folky edgy rock with punky vocals)
Alamaailman Vasarat - Huuro Kolkko (Finnish avant metal with cellos, sax & trombone)
Pikapika Teart - Moonberry (gorgeous chamber folk from Siberia)
Yugen - Iridule (Italian dark complex abrasive chamber rock)
Jack O The Clock - All My Friends (US modern avant folk with americana feel)
Combat Astronomy - Dreams No Longer Hesitate (crushingly heavy avant metal with dissonant complex vocals)   
Corima - Quetzalcoatl (US based young modern zeuhl band in the style of Koenjiyakkei)
Eskaton - 4 Visions (probably the best of the classic Magma erazeuhl bands with strong dissonant french vocals)
Setna - Guerison (probably the best of the modern French mainly instrumental zeuhl (heavy minimalist dark jazz rock))
Vezhlivy Otkaz - Gusi-Lebedi (Geese & Swans) - (Russian edgy avant folk)


Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - July 30 2015 at 20:51
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Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com

https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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Almost all the big bands named, great lists so far. Thumbs Up

It's strange that Cardiacs haven't been mentioned yet, but they're great. Try The Seaside, A Little Man and A House and The Whole World Window, On Land And In The Sea, and Sing To God and see which of those you like.

I'd also like to recommend Las Orejas Y La Lengua, a very obscure Argentine band whose second album, Error, is by turns mysterious, relaxing, and beautiful.
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Check out Zaar, Sotos, Nebelnest, Thinking Plague, October Equus, Far Cornered, and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.
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Thank you all very much, I'll need some time to check it all out.

@schizoidman: These sound very good, especially Estradasphere and Farmers Market. Some of it reminds me of Bulgarian traditional music.
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If you like the Estradasphere check out Atomic Ape , its the same main guy.
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https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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If you want to listen to some of the albums we recommended before buying them, the Italian label AltrOck
Records has all of its releases available on Bandcamp: http://altrockproductions.bandcamp.com/. All those albums are highly recommended (even if not all of them would qualify as Avant). Of course, in my own recommendations I forgot my own #1 album for 2014 - Ut Gret's fabulous Ancestor's Tale, which you will also find on the AltrOck Bandcamp page.
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Originally posted by Skalla-Grim Skalla-Grim wrote:

Thank you all very much, I'll need some time to check it all out.

@schizoidman: These sound very good, especially Estradasphere and Farmers Market. Some of it reminds me of Bulgarian traditional music.

Glad you like them Smile 

When I read what you were looking for I saw that it is the same type of prog that I enjoy. 

All of the bands suggested by the folks who have posted on this thread are very, very good ones. You will probably like most of them.
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Check out Les Morts Vont Vite by Shub Niggurath. It's like you took an album made only out of the most screwed-up and disturbing parts of other avant-prog bands' discographies, resulting in one of the most intensely terrifying listening experiences in the genre.
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^Yup great rec Simon.

Oh and how about some Tigrova Mast?
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BTW I updated my original post with some linksWink





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Gravitsapa from Ukraine
 
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I've found some interesting bands not yet in PA (begging for addition!) on pages of New Amsterdam Records:

Big Farm
http://bigfarm.bandcamp.com/album/big-farm

The Knells
http://theknells.bandcamp.com/album/the-knells


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The Knells (superb outfit, which we had the pleasure of seeing live last year) are on PA: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8672.

Big Farm, on the other hand, are not, and they sound like very good candidates for RIO/Avant. I'll gladly take them to the team for evaluation. Thanks for the suggestionSmile!
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^ ya ain't kiddin' sista... the Knells rule man...
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

The Knells (superb outfit, which we had the pleasure of seeing live last year) are on PA: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8672.

Big Farm, on the other hand, are not, and they sound like very good candidates for RIO/Avant. I'll gladly take them to the team for evaluation. Thanks for the suggestionSmile!

Sorry, I didn't check.

This New Amsterdam Records seem to be specialized in modern classical music from New York but a lot of artists are not affraid to integrate rock/pop elements into their music. A good example for other contemporary academic musicians.
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