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selling_echoes
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Topic: Burning CDs Posted: January 29 2005 at 23:34 |
![](smileys/smiley24.gif) I've been thinking about this for a while, on my own time, in my own head.....
No, seriously. I used to copy albums from friends (Foxtrot ->
Meddle, they're all CD-R'ed) ... but one day I woke up, hit my head on
my CD-rack and a flame was born in me :
Originals are so much better.
I seem to feel some sort of proudness, when an album is bought, and MINE.
Of course, the money issue comes up quite a bit.
So I was wondering, what about you guys?
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gdub411
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 01:42 |
I am more of a in betweener than the choices you made available. I am one who prefers to see cds the way they were meant to be seen...bought from the store with their original artwork.....but.....
sometimes it doesn't hurt when a friend nudges you toward a band you may have never considered.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 02:35 |
I only burn albums that are imposible to get in my country or some that are ridiculous expensive, a few months ago I payed 36 bucks a piece for Japanese editions of No Earthly Connection and Criminal Record both by Rick Wakeman, but that's my limit.
Last week a guy from a store offered me Dark Side of the Moon (Because my CD fell to the floor) for 25 bucks (Buying it by Internet including Peruvian tax would be about US$ 30) so I decided I had already payed too many times for the same album, so I burned the copy I had in the PC.
Iván
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 03:58 |
I dont burn albums myself, although I've had plenty burnt for me by friends.
Someone burnt an album for me recently so I could get a taste for the artists music. If I like what I hear, I'm likely to go out and buy all the artists work anyway, so I dont beat myself up over it.
In fact I spend huge amounts of money on CD's and vinyl anway, so I like to think it all balances out in the end..![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Metropolis
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 05:21 |
Meh, I ca't afford all the cds i want, so i copy some from other
people, but i wll buy them eventually (like when i graduate, and have
some money)
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 07:00 |
I burn lots of CD-R's.I also have over 500 bought CDs and I feel I have contributed sufficient funds to the greedy record companies.
I have a HiFi CD recorder as well as my PC. The direct copies I make on my HIFI CD Recorder are virtually indistinguishable sonically from the originals and I can perceive the difference between these copies and those made on a PC.
Many of the CD's I burn now are taken directly from MP3s and converted to CD playable format (wav compatible) using Nero. The quality is obviously not as good as a standard CD ( of course most of my friends cannot hear any difference![Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) ) but is barely "acceptable" when played on a revealing seperates HiFi system. Converting MP3's is very useful for making compilation CD's to play on my car's CD player (although I had an MP3 capable player in my last car).I use printable CDR's(£15 for 100 Ritek) in my PC and can print the label directly on to the CD using an Epson R200 printer (@£80, though I got it in a PC world sale for £69.99)which has an insert for printing CDs- the final result looks really cool and many people cant distinguish them from an original! I very rarely burn full albums these days, usually compilation "best ofs" for friends I want to convert to the prog cause.
A big thank you to Leo (beau heem) BTW !!!![Thumbs Up](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) ![Hug](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif) ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
and Useful..........when you gonna open the floodgates again?![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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JCProg
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 07:14 |
I prefer originals, but i do have a few out-of-print or hard-to-find albums burned on cd-r's. I get rid of the copies if/when I find originals.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 07:47 |
I f the quality of the copy is nigh on perfect why prefer the original? The music is more important than the packaging. The packaging is a marketing tool. You can get the lyrics off the bands website or fansite.
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goose
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 08:17 |
Reed Lover wrote:
I f the quality of the copy is nigh on perfect why
prefer the original? The music is more important than the packaging.
The packaging is a marketing tool. You can get the lyrics off the bands
website or fansite. |
Just because.
To slightly justify it, you say the music is more important,
but that doesn't make the packaging totally irrelevant. I'm a
(small-scale, thus far) collector of CDs and soon vinyl, so I don't
want a shelf full of copies. The only CDs I burn are bootlegs,
internet-only releases and occaisionally rare/OOP ones that I just
can't get hold of.
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goose
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 08:18 |
selling_echoes wrote:
I seem to feel some sort of proudness, when an album is bought, and MINE.
Of course, the money issue comes up quite a bit.
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That's exactly where I stand.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 08:23 |
goose wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
I f the quality of the copy is nigh on perfect why prefer the original? The music is more important than the packaging. The packaging is a marketing tool. You can get the lyrics off the bands website or fansite. |
Just because.
To slightly justify it, you say the music is more important, but that doesn't make the packaging totally irrelevant. I'm a (small-scale, thus far) collector of CDs and soon vinyl, so I don't want a shelf full of copies. The only CDs I burn are bootlegs, internet-only releases and occaisionally rare/OOP ones that I just can't get hold of.
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What do you think I am trying to justify Goose?
Why do you not want a shelf full of copies if they look and sound like the real thing?
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goose
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 08:52 |
I meant I was justifying why I don't do copies, just using very awkward phrasing.
Also I can't ever get them to look perfect, because I have a cheap
printer, and some booklets have a lot of pages. But as I said
originally, that's not the real reason I buy originals, it's just
because I want to.
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arcer
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 14:47 |
Like Reed, I burn stuff I already own - vinyl to CD etc, CDs to Cd compilation for use in the car. I used to have a mini-disc deck and cd autochanger in the last car but now have just a cd changer so i have no compunction about burning stuff I own to compilations for portability.
But on the mp3 thing - if I hear tracks I like I'll download em, burn em and road test em in the car to confirm my liking - then i'll buy the album.
I did this with PFM here on the site - downloading their stuff, burning it and then ordering their first 3 albums from Laser's Edge. Thus I feel I've done the band a favour by downloading and burning their music illegally, cause I went and gave them cash for it in the end.
The stuff I don't end up liking - well I just bin the burned CDRs
Of course, I have a job (however poorly paid) and can afford to just oder up a bunch of CDs on a whim - it ain't like that for high school students or the unemployed. Indeed, I seem to remember in my dim and distant youth having an entire drawer full of illegally recorded cassette duplicates of friends' albums.
And despite all the Home Taping is Killing Music nonsense back then, the music industry didn't spontaneously combust now did it....
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goose
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:12 |
Oh, I'll copy albums I own for convenience, but at the minute there's
not really an issue: I can't drive so I don't need casettes for the
car; The only portable music player I have at the minute is a gig mp3
one, perhaps when I buy a discman I'll copy some vinyl onto CD, and
perhaps when I start driving I'll copy some vinyl and CD onto tape. NB
I have only a PC based CD writer, and no tape recorder of my own, so I
might run into some difficulties ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) .
One of my life's aims is to drive near a chavvy boy racer blasting some
Schoenberg at full volume*, or something equally brutal. Don't ask me
why, it's just a dream ![](smileys/smiley36.gif) . The closet I've come so far is when my brother was driving and we turned Wagner right up; it was a proud moment.
*(the chav isn't blasting Schoenberg; I am)
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Metropolis
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:48 |
Reed Lover wrote:
I burn lots of CD-R's.I also have over 500
bought CDs and I feel I have contributed sufficient funds to the greedy
record companies. |
How'd a 16 yr old afford all that?
I'm so poor
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:50 |
I'm not called Don Deluego either.......![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:51 |
Neither am I from Sao Tome and Principe either.......
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:51 |
Nor Greenland
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gdub411
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:56 |
Dang Reed....you look terrible for 16.![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Metropolis
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 15:59 |
So I guess all that "info" in his profile is bull then?
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