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    Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:27
I'm somewhat new around here. In my month, or whatever it is, I've noticed very different opinoins on ELP. Some people absolutly love them (you kno who you are), and some absolutly hate them. I would like to know why. I have a few of thier albums (4 to be exact) and they seem like a fine band. Granted they are not my favorite, but still good. It appears, at least to me, that everyone here either loves it OR hates it, with no in between. So I'm just interested in why this is so. Thank you. (And im sure ill get a bunch of people saying that they are in between just to spite me .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:33

I'm in between.LOL

In between hate and loathe.Wink

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And "they" are watching him!!LOL




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It all began when an obsessed ELP fan came here, and started preaching nothing but ELP. Some of us got a bit annoyed, and his behavior turned some people to personal attacks agaisnt his favorite band. It didn't hep that some playful teasing of ELP, because of them being Threefates favorite band has always occured, because Karn didn't seem to understand humour. So now us being stubborn prog fans, we stick to our negative, unfounded views of these bands, who we've insulted previously if only for fun. Like Yes, Yes sucks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:37

What I notice happening is this:

For many strange reasons, people become invested in disliking a band (even one I think they orginally sort of liked), often because they don't like the person who does like the band (or more exactly, doesn't like the intensity of devotion displayed by him or her) and so it goes round and round until finally the person who made a few disparaging remarks is labelled as an ELP-hater.

The ELP-hater then begins to internalize this label to the point where he cannot really ever give ELP its due again. Because they are now too aware of the criticisms they made and thus have to really avoid listening to the band  because they can't enjoy the experience (though there's a secret part of them that knows they really kind of did like the band), but it's been destroyed by this political warfare.

It's kind of sad actually. It happened to me; I have trouble enjoying U2 because of this very problem.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:37
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

I'm in between.LOL

In between hate and loathe.Wink

By the way,"he" is watching.Ermm

And "they" are watching him!!LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:39

I'd rather hear the voices in my head, than the meaningless meanderings of an overenthousiastic casio-keyboard player.

I can't even call the guy's talented (except for Carl Palmer, with a lot of imagination that is)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:42
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

What I notice happening is this:

For many strange reasons, people become invested in disliking a band (even one I think they orginally sort of liked), often because they don't like the person who does like the band (or more exactly, doesn't like the intensity of devotion displayed by him or her) and so it goes round and round until finally the person who made a few disparaging remarks is labelled as an ELP-hater.

The ELP-hater then begins to internalize this label to the point where he cannot really ever give ELP its due again. Because they are now too aware of the criticisms they made and thus have to really avoid listening to the band  because they can't enjoy the experience (though there's a secret part of them that knows they really kind of did like the band), but it's been destroyed by this political warfare.

It's kind of sad actually. It happened to me; I have trouble enjoying U2 because of this very problem.

I listen to ELP regularly,I have no problems or hang-ups about bullsh*tting about them!

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You have got to take some things with a pinch of salt!Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:44

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

It all began when an obsessed ELP fan came here, and started preaching nothing but ELP. Some of us got a bit annoyed, and his behavior turned some people to personal attacks agaisnt his favorite band. It didn't hep that some playful teasing of ELP, because of them being Threefates favorite band has always occured, because Karn didn't seem to understand humour. So now us being stubborn prog fans, we stick to our negative, unfounded views of these bands, who we've insulted previously if only for fun. Like Yes, Yes sucks!

Away and bile yer heid man

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:45
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

What I notice happening is this:

For many strange reasons, people become invested in disliking a band (even one I think they orginally sort of liked), often because they don't like the person who does like the band (or more exactly, doesn't like the intensity of devotion displayed by him or her) and so it goes round and round until finally the person who made a few disparaging remarks is labelled as an ELP-hater.

The ELP-hater then begins to internalize this label to the point where he cannot really ever give ELP its due again. Because they are now too aware of the criticisms they made and thus have to really avoid listening to the band  because they can't enjoy the experience (though there's a secret part of them that knows they really kind of did like the band), but it's been destroyed by this political warfare.

It's kind of sad actually. It happened to me; I have trouble enjoying U2 because of this very problem.

I listen to ELP regularly,I have no problems or hang-ups about bullsh*tting about them!

LOL

You have got to take some things with a pinch of salt!Wink

Great advice, that's the advantage of never taking a serious band-hating stance. I, for one, appreciate that and will try to work that into my U2 hatred problem.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:46
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

What I notice happening is this:

For many strange reasons, people become invested in disliking a band (even one I think they orginally sort of liked), often because they don't like the person who does like the band (or more exactly, doesn't like the intensity of devotion displayed by him or her) and so it goes round and round until finally the person who made a few disparaging remarks is labelled as an ELP-hater.

The ELP-hater then begins to internalize this label to the point where he cannot really ever give ELP its due again. Because they are now too aware of the criticisms they made and thus have to really avoid listening to the band  because they can't enjoy the experience (though there's a secret part of them that knows they really kind of did like the band), but it's been destroyed by this political warfare.

It's kind of sad actually. It happened to me; I have trouble enjoying U2 because of this very problem.

I listen to ELP regularly,I have no problems or hang-ups about bullsh*tting about them!

LOL

You have got to take some things with a pinch of salt!Wink

Great advice, that's the advantage of never taking a serious band-hating stance. I, for one, appreciate that and will try to work that into my U2 hatred problem.

Funnily enough,U2 are far more unpopular around here than ELP! I love them BTW!Big smile




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 19:39
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Funnily enough,U2 are far more unpopular around here than ELP!



Yes. But Reed, that applies to you, too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 20:46
Isn't Man With Hat, KE9 and 3rd Impression (amongst others...) all the same person? (Thought that was obvious)
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Originally posted by Cluster One Cluster One wrote:

Isn't Man With Hat, KE9 and 3rd Impression (amongst others...) all the same person? (Thought that was obvious)

No. Man with hat is not KE9 nor 3rd impression. I am a seperate preson. Those other two may be the same, and there might be others, but dont include me in that group, thanks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 22:02

Here's a song I made about it

Elp is better than Yes
yes yes yes
no Yes is not good
and ELP is good
Yes
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YES
Oh yah!

See why you should leave songwriting up to a skilled poet like Greg Lake.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 22:25
Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Here's a song I made about it

Elp is better than Yes
yes yes yes
no Yes is not good
and ELP is good
Yes
yes
YES
Oh yah!

See why you should leave songwriting up to a skilled poet like Greg Lake.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 22:39
Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Here's a song I made about it

Elp is better than Yes
yes yes yes
no Yes is not good
and ELP is good
Yes
yes
YES
Oh yah!

See why you should leave songwriting up to a skilled poet like Greg Lake.

You aren't by any chance Greg Lake, are you?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2005 at 23:12
ELP are Life.... just remember that and everything will be okay!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:08

1) We cant ALL be expected to like ALL prog rock bands. ELP have their haters on here, as do Rush, Yes and whoever else. So what?

2) Some people have no sense of humour. Or,through no fault of their own, dont understand or pick up on the humour that comes across in teasing, and playful criticism. Thats what most criticism of bands amounts to around here.

3) With someone like KE9, what music he likes and dislikes becomes irrelevant. It's his attitude to others that causes the problems, lights the fire, and creates the impression that ELP are hated. I, for one have a problem with KE9, not ELP.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:22
ELP have always tended to polarise opinion.They were never a perfect band but they had ideas which is the most important thing to me.I have no problem with people telling me that they don't like them but I do admit to getting annoyed when people ignorantly try to devalue their place in the prog scheme of things just for the 'petty' sake of it.Hopefully I've never abused or been rude to anyone though.If I have then I sincerely apologise.At the end of the day there is no accounting for taste.I just happen to have very good taste
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You know what band really sucks?  Jethro Tull!
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