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jitu
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Starette
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 08:22 |
I'm actually in agreement with the statement that Coldplay is for 14 year old school girls but for an entirely different reason because it was ME who was a 14year old school girl when I discovered the beauty of Coldplay. However...all the other girls in my dull generic-thinking single-sex school hated Coldplay and mocked me. They were too into Hip-hop, Rap and Green Day. Get the gist of what I mean??
The truth is that I ADORE Coldplay. If it wasn't for Chris Martins romantic lyrics and emotionally driven voice then I'd probably have killed myself while having to go to such a tasteless hell-hole of a school and living in such a community. (sorry to be overly-dramatic)
YET... Coldplay may have good guitar riffs and chordal progression and a lovely sleepy-voiced leader but that's as far as the similarities with Radiohead go. I love Radiohead (who are a little bit darker in their themes and experimental than CP) too but *neither* are prog! Just because something is fantastic doesn't mean it's in the prog-rock style. Someone on these forums said that there's a difference between being 'progressive' and being in the 'Progressive' Rock genre...and they were absolutely right. Don't get me wrong- some of Radiohead's songs certainly sound like progressive rock (eg: Paranoid Android is unmistakably one) but Thom yorke has really confessed to disliking the idea of Progessive Rock as a genre all together. Coldplay and Radiohead are BRIT POP! There's really no two ways about it.
But I can see why you'rd question the possibilities when after listening to Genesis' Carpet Crawlers then Coldplay's Sparks, you could almost call then one-in-the-same.
*Starette wacks Spectral over the head with a baton several times till his brain starts to show then rolls him up in a carpet and throws him to the lions but not before giving him a hefty does of heroin* You may not have noticed Spectral but in all the times I've seen you on this site, i appear to have developed a rather large dislike of you and your petty short-sited viewpoints.
My ex-bf is into SOAD. God help him. I wouldn't recommend that type of crap to anyone unless they're just looking for beer-drinking songs or something to get high to.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 08:41 |
Starette wrote:
I'm actually in agreement with the statement that Coldplay is for 14 year old school girls but for an entirely different reason because it was ME who was a 14year old school girl when I discovered the beauty of Coldplay. However...all the other girls in my dull generic-thinking single-sex school hated Coldplay and mocked me. They were too into Hip-hop, Rap and Green Day. Get the gist of what I mean??
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I think the gist is that Colplay is not for 14 year old school girls ... you seem to be an exception. I think that 90% of the current 14 year old schoolgirls would describe Coldplay as "boring", or "lame", or "too old".
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 11:37 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Starette wrote:
I'm actually in agreement with the statement that Coldplay is for 14 year old school girls but for an entirely different reason because it was ME who was a 14year old school girl when I discovered the beauty of Coldplay. However...all the other girls in my dull generic-thinking single-sex school hated Coldplay and mocked me. They were too into Hip-hop, Rap and Green Day. Get the gist of what I mean??
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I think the gist is that Colplay is not for 14 year old school girls ... you seem to be an exception. I think that 90% of the current 14 year old schoolgirls would describe Coldplay as "boring", or "lame", or "too old".
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Yea, I would agree with you there. They'd much prefer to listen to IMo, Hip hop or Rap?
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Empathy
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 12:52 |
Logos wrote:
Empathy wrote:
Plus I find them to be simply sloppy and painful to watch live.
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They're absolutely stellar live. |
Maybe something amazing happened after I fell asleep, then.
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richeym
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 13:14 |
just cos Coldplay rip off Radiohead, who are fairly proggy, doesnt make Coldplay prog.
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Logos
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:02 |
richeym wrote:
just cos Coldplay rip off Radiohead, who are fairly proggy, doesnt make Coldplay prog. |
Could you give me some examples of Coldplay ripping off Radiohead?
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cucacola54
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:06 |
Coldplay = striaght pop
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DeathRow
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 15:27 |
I like the piano based melodies, but it's just simple pop music, nice to hear on the radio, but nothing to listen to for a complete album.
Boring |)
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Borealis
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:29 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis recently said that SOAD was for 13 year old kids ... doesn't make sense to me, neither with SOAD nor Coldplay. |
How is that relevant here? Borealis has made no mention of 13 yrs old kids in regard to coldplay?
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Coldplay and SOAD have in common that they are not bands for kids. So, both comments have in common that they don't reflect the situation in the real world.
Not every band that makes video clips and is played on MTV is for kids.
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That really affected you, right?
Well, actually, just to make a statement, I do not says that system of a down or coldplay (Although I do not remember saying anything about coldplay being for 13 year old kids...) is MADE for kids, but no matter what the intention is, it IS people from 13-16 year old mainly who listen to them. The music industry (MTV, etc...) probably aim these ages as a public with Soad.
I am 16, and all I hear is people listening to system of a down, so there is on megadeth, metallica and iron maiden. My sister, who is 13, says that everyone listen to system of a down (even a lot of girl, to impress boys probably) because they says it's 'cool'. I don't know what where the intention of soad, but that are the results...
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:33 |
Borealis wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis recently said that SOAD was for 13 year old kids ... doesn't make sense to me, neither with SOAD nor Coldplay. |
That really affected you, right?
Well, actually, just to make a statement, I do not says that system of a down or coldplay (Although I do not remember saying anything about coldplay being for 13 year old kids...) is MADE for kids, but no matter what the intention is, it IS people from 13-16 year old mainly who listen to them. The music industry (MTV, etc...) probably aim these ages as a public with Soad.
I am 16, and all I hear is people listening to system of a down, so there is on megadeth, metallica and iron maiden. My sister, who is 13, says that everyone listen to system of a down (even a lot of girl, to impress boys probably) because they says it's 'cool'. I don't know what where the intention of soad, but that are the results...
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It didn't affect me at all ... and you said that, didn't you? Anyway, I can only say that the 13-15 year old kids that I know don't like SOAD. And certainly not Coldplay. But German kids are surely different ... they can't understand the lyrics, to start with.
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Borealis
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:43 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis recently said that SOAD was for 13 year old kids ... doesn't make sense to me, neither with SOAD nor Coldplay. |
That really affected you, right?
Well, actually, just to make a statement, I do not says that system of a down or coldplay (Although I do not remember saying anything about coldplay being for 13 year old kids...) is MADE for kids, but no matter what the intention is, it IS people from 13-16 year old mainly who listen to them. The music industry (MTV, etc...) probably aim these ages as a public with Soad.
I am 16, and all I hear is people listening to system of a down, so there is on megadeth, metallica and iron maiden. My sister, who is 13, says that everyone listen to system of a down (even a lot of girl, to impress boys probably) because they says it's 'cool'. I don't know what where the intention of soad, but that are the results...
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It didn't affect me at all ... and you said that, didn't you? Anyway, I can only say that the 13-15 year old kids that I know don't like SOAD. And certainly not Coldplay. But German kids are surely different ... they can't understand the lyrics, to start with.
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Well, I live in Québec, which is the french part of Canada, and no one here understand the lyrics eithier (well, english is the second language here, so some might if they check in the booklet, but anyway...). I don't know your age, but I can says that these kind of music really are popular here. Maybe the fact we are over the USA, and so awfully influenced by this country, explain the popularity...
I would also says that Coldplay isn't much popular here, by the way.
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 09:47 |
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felixxx
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 10:02 |
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and
maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive
disco band
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salmacis
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:27 |
Not a chance...Coldplay define the term 'overrated'; in the UK at least, you can't move for someone trying to ram down your throat how 'brilliant' and 'amazing' their albums are. I can't see it at all- to me it's just dull, post Radiohead indie.
The difference between Radiohead and Coldplay is that Radiohead are anything but formulaic, and are constantly innovating new sounds- Coldplay are not. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody said 'where are Keane on this site' just because they have keyboards and 'sound like Radiohead'...
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Logos
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:50 |
felixxx wrote:
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and
maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive
disco band |
Why such strong reactions?
No one can seriously suggest Coldplay to be prog, so you don't have to panic about it.
Just enjoy the fantastic and fresh album that goes by the name of "X&Y" .
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:50 |
Why is everyon comparing them to Radiohead? They seem more like Travis to me, which is equally average and boring.
BTW: Does anyone of you know The Electric Soft Pared - The American Adventure? THAT's a good example of what interesting British pop can be like!
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R o V e R
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 17:00 |
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 14:51 |
May I then, suggest "Ashley Simpson" ?. Listen to "Pieces of me", it has a constant intensity and mood change throughout.
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krusty
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:43 |
Logos wrote:
felixxx wrote:
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and
maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive
disco band |
Why such strong reactions?
No one can seriously suggest Coldplay to be prog, so you don't have to panic about it.
Just enjoy the fantastic and fresh album that goes by the name of "X&Y" . |
I'm in total agreement with above statment if anyone is interested.
No? OK move on..
nothing to see here....
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