Progressive copy cats

frenchie: never noticed before but you're right; I hear a possible influence there. Although HOTS is more of a bass riff and 21st is more guitar, but it is similar.

Which might explain why Heart Of The Sunrise is one of my all-time favorite songs, and definitely my fave Yes song.

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frenchie wrote: i feel like the only one to notice... but ever since i heard heart of the sunrise by yes ive thought that intro fast riff sounds like the middle section of 21st century schizoid man. any thoughts?

Yes - I can hear KC "21st Century ..." in that intro. But not so dramatically that I would call it a major influence. It's only that you point it out that I noticed.

Hmm, on my copy its barely visible

Seriously i could barely make that out, i dont think that counts

Arsillus wrote: . DT originally put their band logo in every studio album cover and then SX did it too.   And how does that affect the music? How does putting your band name/logo on every album cover make you a DT clone? Explain. Matt

I agree with you in that the art work doesnt make you a clone, but why does everyone believe that DT put their band logo on every studio album cover, it just isnt true, I am HOLDING Falling into Infinity ans it sure as hell does NOT have the DT band logo on the cover

Arsillus wrote: . DT originally put their band logo in every studio album cover and then SX did it too.   And how does that affect the music? How does putting your band name/logo on every album cover make you a DT clone? Explain. Matt

no i just think they have blatently taken DT as more than just an influence, they are just an even more dramatic and mythologic version of dream theater. not only do they copy their sound and style but they also copy artwork ideas and stuff! not helping out their case!

i dont like that about SX but if you read any of my reviews i gave SX good reviews! i like them musically, i am not even bothered about the similarities cos they are a good band!

cmon people! help me out here!

Jim Prog Wizard wrote: I know that DT are undoubtadly influenced by Metallica, but then DT are a considerably better band than Metallica ever were. And no, I don't just mean better musicians, a mean a better BAND.  Songwriting, performance, consistency, the whole shebang.

I guess it's taste - but I completely and utterly disagree with that - Metallica's early songwriting was amazing, their performances were blistering - and as for consistency, Metallica NEVER wrote anything less than awesome for the first 3 albums, then went a bit eccentric (but DT liked it enough to actually copy the riffs - not be inspired by, but use the same riffs). What they did from 1991 onwards is unforgiven...  

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frenchie wrote: eternity x are DT copycats too, on the mp3 i downloaded there was a riff that was a direct copy from part of overture 1928. im pretty sure EX came out after too and osund inspired by em.

They've only released one album since Scenes. Obviously I don't know which track you've heard but all the Eternity X I've listened to sounds far too '80s to sound like Dream Theater (I was quite surprised just now to find out they've only been around since the early '90s, actually).

Re DT/Metallica, I can hear it on Images and Words, but nothing since then really.

eternity x are DT copycats too, on the mp3 i downloaded there was a riff that was a direct copy from part of overture 1928. im pretty sure EX came out after too and osund inspired by em.