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Poll Question: What is the prog band with the most virtuosist musicians?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2005 at 10:43
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Among this list, well...Jethro Tull maybe, next King Crimson despite that Greg Lake sings really wrong!! this guy can't sing but I like his guitar bass lines

I'm so sorry about your hearing deformity!! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2005 at 11:05
UK appear to have it all in the 'chops' department but I'm not sure if that classifies them as the best musicians. I've heard Gilmour get more out of a single note than Holdsworth has in thirty. That said, Holdsworth (with possibly the exception of Fripp) has as more 'sonic' impact than just about guitarist on the prog scene.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2005 at 12:49
YES by a mile.

Although Dave Gilmour is almost untouchable in terms of tone, mood, atmosphere and bending notes, the rest of Pink Floyd are NOT in the same league as: YES, Keith Emerson, Hackett, Fripp etc
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2005 at 12:55

I really don't believe there's one single band with the best musicians, IMO the best prog musicians are from different bands:

  1. Vocals: Peter Gabriel/Greg Lake/John Wetton
  2. Drums: Phil Ehart/Bill Bruford
  3. Guitar: Steve Hackett
  4. Bass: Tony Levin/Gary Thain
  5. Keyboards: Rick Wakeman (Technically the best)
  6. Violin: Robbie Steinhardt/Jean Luc Ponty
  7. Flute: Ian Anderson

It's a mixture

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2005 at 12:55
Robert fripp is a moderately good guitarist.

John Wetton is one of the best bassists I know, though he still pales in comparison to Pastorius or Wooten.

Bill Bruford IS the best drummer I know

David Cross was a bit bland.

Therefore, out of these, KC.

Of course, looking at such groups as Mahavishnu Orchestra make these guys here look like kids with nylon strings
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2005 at 12:57
The band with the most virtuosist musicians : Allan Holdsworth's solo albums feature very skilled musicians.
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 00:30

Lets break it down by weaker points and see who is left standing

Geneis-weak bass compared to the others

Rush-weak vocals and guitar compared to others

ELP weak guitarist compared to others, vocals too

Pink Floyd-weak drummer, keyboards a little 

Asia-keyboards

UK-vocals

Jethro Tull-weak bass and drums

that leaves King Crimson and Yes

Fripp/Belew over Howe

Wakeman over McDonald/fripptronics

Squire over Levin/Wetton/other although Levin could give him a run for the money

Bruford over Bruford  

Jon Anderson over any kc singer

other instruments KC over Yes

guess its YES

If its no vocals Mahavishnu and Return to Forever could give them all a good run.  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 01:45
I'm gonna have to go with King Crimson, though it's very likely that my current obsession is guiding my decision.  Sure, there were off-points like Buz on vocals/bass, but really...  BRUFORD!  OH, BRUFORD!  ...I think I'm gonna need a tissue...  

So really, let's look at the double-trio lineup.

Guitar:  Fripp, Belew:  Both ROCK-SOLID rhythm players (and that means much more with the time signatures they played in.  I'd like to see Yes play the THRaK album), insane lead guitarists, and their solos are inventive, insane, and sonically pleasing and disturbing at the same time.

Percussion:  Bruford, Mastelotto:  Any true progger finds himself in need of a few tissues to clean up the resulting mess that occurs when one merely *mentions* Bill Bruford.  I'd say the parts Bruford played in King Crimson is indicative of not only his own talent, but the talent of the musicians around him that would give him need to play like he does.  Mastelotto's no Bruford, but his acoustic/electric style is inventive, and he can hold down the time changes and polyrhythms without issue.

Bass:  Levin, Gunn:  Yes, that's right.  Tony Levin and Trey Gunn.  Wait, other bass players on the list are considered virtuosos? 

Vocals:  Belew, Levin:  Belew's awesome.  Levin's...  a solid backup vocalist.  None of the awesome three-part harmonies of Yes, I'll concede the vocals to them for that alone, but let's see Jon Anderson pull off anything Belew ever did, guitar in hand. 


In conclusion:  King Crimson, with THE FLOWER KINGS coming in a distant second.







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 08:18

YES !!!!

For myself there's no better vocalist, bassist and guitarist in Progressive than Anderson, Squire and Howe.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2005 at 09:03

RUSH OF COURSE.

THE BEST AND MOST TIED RYTHM SECTION EVER. LEE AND PEART ARE REALY ONE BODY.

AND OF COURSE LIFESON IS GREAT

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2005 at 09:23
Gong had the best musicians in 2 positions and a good contender (but in my opinion not the best) in a 3rd:
The late Pierre Moerlen on drums (I always wonder why no-one names him, he must have been too little known. Anyone who has ever heard him would almost automatically name him. Someone said that with Neil Peart he sometimes asks himself "How did he do that"?, but with Moerlen you always wonder that. No surprise he won the "Premier Prix du Percussion" of the academy of Strassbourg).
Didier Malherbe on woodwinds (especially flute).
The contender: Steve Hillage, but I agree there are better ones. Nevertheless an excellent muscian.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2005 at 15:44

To the person who claimed Genesis had weak bass, I disagree greatly. I have played bass for years and have listened to many bassists, and Rutherford is one of the most creative out there. He is highly underappreciated (probably because Hackett and Banks have their instruments mixed in extremely loud compared to the bass.) Listen to anything off of Nursery Cryme, Trespass, Foxtrot or the Lamb carefully and you'll see that he is much better than you think. I personally think that he is as skilled as Squire for top bass spot.

Take "The return... hogweed" for example. Rutherford's bass is very creative, it may not have a cool tone or flashiness, but its technically very good and from a bassists perspective, hard to play. I find much of Squire's stuff not that hard to play, but much of Rutherford's work takes me along time to figure out.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2005 at 19:19
SPASTIC INK!!
 There's really no competition.
Among bands with a more stable line'up, though, I'd say that Pain of Salvation, Andromeda, A.C.T. (Swedish patriotism here...) and Planet X are tops.
 Of the old 70's bands I'd pick King Crimson. They've managed to evolve and adapt in more ways than most bands manage, and they're still among the best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2005 at 19:48

Yep... This is a though one!

It's very hard  for me to name THE BAND, because I like a lot of prog musicians, each with its own style:

Bass: Squire (my favourite), Wetton...

Drums (I am a drummer):  Bruford, Collins, Peart, Moerlen, Pip Pyle, Mastelotto, Christian Vander...

Guitar: Fripp, Howe, Hackett

Vocals: Peter Gabriel, Jon Anderson, Peter Hammill...

Keyboards: Emerson ( IMO, the most versatile), Wakeman, Tony banks...

...You know... I LOVE THEM ALL!!!,... but I have chosen King Crimson, because I've never heard something like they did in 1972-74. Very talented musicians, especially live, where they were capable to create from the nothingness, much in the avant-jazz vein. Plus, I think it's the band that has aged best from the seventies ( I also like what they are doing now, doesn't happen to me with the rest).  

 

 

"...I like the way the music goes...there's a few good guys who can play it right..."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 13:27
NONE OF THE ABOVE
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 13:28

Originally posted by bityear bityear wrote:

..... and Planet X are tops.
 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 16:10
RUSH!!!!!!


Ps if i say this in big enough letters will anyone care?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 17:48
Rush is nice too...

But i´ll stay with YES
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 18:24
Yes (from that list... we all know who I'd really pick).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 18:26

I agree with everything Reed Lover says.Rush are the best collectively.

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