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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:21 |
 bogdan. wrote:
There are so many better HC bands then Ayreon.
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That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC bands.
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bogdan.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:22 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
Just listen to Madame Germen |
Just give us some samples ... |
As cicatrizes do paraiso
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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spectral
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:26 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes - Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it.
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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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bogdan.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:28 |
Hammill wrote:
Bogdan what do you mean by saying hardcore? bands like madball, anistiic front, earth crisis etc?
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It is not Bogdan, but bogdan. . And I mean Madame German and other bands I am asking you to sugest.
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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Hammill
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:30 |
bogdan. wrote:
Hammill wrote:
Bogdan what do you mean by saying hardcore? bands like madball, anistiic front, earth crisis etc?
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It is not Bogdan, but bogdan. . And I mean Madame German and other bands I am asking you to sugest.
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yeah sorry for using B instead of b...anyway
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bogdan.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:30 |
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really
believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but
about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC
bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like
prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about
how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes -
Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I
appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it. |
You know what are you talking about
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:32 |
bogdan. wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
Just listen to Madame Germen |
Just give us some samples ...
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As cicatrizes do paraiso
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Listening to A Morte Das Linguas right now ... it sucks. The Mars Volta does it a million times better. Boring song structures, the vocals are repetitive just not musical, extremely poor production, the guitar work is dull, and the whole thing is just not tight.
Listen to Extol:
http://www.undeceived.net/
They do everything better than Madame Germen.
Sorry if I sound a little harsh, but that's my honest opinion. Feel free to bash Extol any way you want ... 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:34 |
bogdan. wrote:
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes - Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it.
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You know what are you talking about
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I don't think that Dillinger Escape Plan are HC. They are Mathcore, if anything.
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bogdan.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:42 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really
believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but
about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC
bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like
prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about
how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes -
Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I
appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it.
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You know what are you talking about
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I don't think that Dillinger Escape Plan are HC. They are Mathcore, if anything. |
 Now you can go f**k your self. 
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:43 |
You seem to know more about Hardcore than me ... why don't you answer my questions for a change and tell me if you would call Dillinger a Hardcore band? Or give me a list of other Hardocre bands to check out ... Hardcore is not a genre that I can google for. I need help.
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bogdan.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:48 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
You seem to know more about Hardcore than me ... why don't you
answer my questions for a change and tell me if you would call
Dillinger a Hardcore band? Or give me a list of other Hardocre bands to
check out ... Hardcore is not a genre that I can google for. I need
help.
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I can't download Dillinger now, but when I will, I'll tell you. I will make a list of some HC band and I'll post to you.  Just be my friend. 
Pizda.
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 17:43 |
No problem ... try some Extol as well. I'll check out the bands that you post, and then we have a common basis to argue about. 
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 18:03 |
bogdan. wrote:
HC is Hardcore. |
If you mean HardCore porn I agree with you.
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Olympus
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 04:15 |
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maybe, No
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:20 |
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1. The Dillinger Escape plan is not HC
2. HC sucks
3. Prog Metal rules!
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Scrambled_Eggs
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:30 |
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Anything ending in the the suffix "core" sucks. Hardcore sucks. Grindcore sucks. The movie "The Core" sucks. Need I go on?
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And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I
don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying?
There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime.
I never said I was frightened of dying.
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:32 |
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
Anything ending in the the suffix "core"
sucks. Hardcore sucks. Grindcore sucks. The movie "The Core"
sucks. Need I go on? |
The Dillinger Escape Plan is metalcore and it doesn`t suck 
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Scrambled_Eggs
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:51 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
The Dillinger Escape Plan is metalcore and it doesn`t suck
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According to my theory they suck. 'tis a shame too. Some of their stuff isn't too bad.
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And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I
don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying?
There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime.
I never said I was frightened of dying.
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:55 |
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
Wolf Spider wrote:
The Dillinger Escape Plan is metalcore and it doesn`t suck
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According to my theory they suck. 'tis a shame too. Some of their stuff isn't too bad. |
All their stuff is great! Are you deaf?
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Kohllapse
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:58 |
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
Anything ending in the the suffix "core" sucks. Hardcore sucks. Grindcore sucks. The movie "The Core" sucks. Need I go on? |
And thats only an opinion, because grindcore doesnt suck Ex:Carcass,Good metalcore=Living Sacrifice
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