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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2005 at 16:43

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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Points: 2546 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2005 at 16:58
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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You are kidding aren't you???? Metallic influenced by Yes??? Where,what how???  


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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2005 at 17:00
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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You are kidding aren't you???? Metallic influenced by Yes??? Where,what how???  

Course they were inluenced by Yes!

"Yes,you can make a fortune by peddling this over-bearing,thrash metal tripe!"Wink



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Points: 2546 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2005 at 17:01
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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You are kidding aren't you???? Metallic influenced by Yes??? Where,what how???  

Hmmm - my glasses must be fogging up - DT influenced by Metallica - possibly but ever so slightly


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Points: 2546 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2005 at 17:02
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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You are kidding aren't you???? Metallic influenced by Yes??? Where,what how???  

Course they were inluenced by Yes!

"Yes,you can make a fortune by peddling this over-bearing,thrash metal tripe!"Wink

Hehehe - I really like that comment 


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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 03:18
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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You are kidding aren't you???? Metallic influenced by Yes??? Where,what how???  

Hmmm - my glasses must be fogging up - DT influenced by Metallica - possibly but ever so slightly

Ever so slightly?

Ever heard "Images and Words"?

DT don't just imitate slighty on that album, they re-use complete Metallica riffs!!
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Points: 289 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 03:52
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by arkitek arkitek wrote:

edit/... but then you can say DT copied their style of another band (can't think of one at the mo but you get my drift )

How about Metallica? Yes?

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i think you got that the wrong way round mate  Metallica influenced by DT
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Points: 760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 06:31
But metallica STOPPED making good music the same year that DT STARTED making good music, how could DT have possibly influenced them?
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Points: 2546 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 06:53

Slight confusion here - I have to take on Metropolis argument that Metallica have influenced DT and make reference to Certif1ed comments. I will have to have another good listen to that track "Images and Words". Strangely enough I have not thought to hard about this angle but will make some effort to do so


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Points: 760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 07:07
I personally dont get the whole DT ripping off Metallica thing either, but I guess I'm biased
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Points: 760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 07:08
Although i do have to say that there is a riff somewhere on Train of Thought taken directly from the track Noose off Burn the Sun by Ark (i think its in This Dying Soul)
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 08:23
Read my review of Images and Words - I pinpointed a few riffs that DT used verbatim from Metallica albums before the Black Album (their last decent one, although it was nowhere near the high standard of the first 4).
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Points: 134 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2005 at 10:11

I know that DT are undoubtadly influenced by Metallica, but then DT are a considerably better band than Metallica ever were.

And no, I don't just mean better musicians, a mean a better BAND.  Songwriting, performance, consistency, the whole shebang.
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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2005 at 11:15
eternity x are DT copycats too, on the mp3 i downloaded there was a riff that was a direct copy from part of overture 1928. im pretty sure EX came out after too and osund inspired by em.
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the first 8 or so bars of ALQUIN's extremely impressive "The Mountain Queen" Lp sound exactly like Yes' Yours Is no Disgrace, but there the similarity ends and it morphs into a very original, and individual proggy LP.
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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2005 at 14:09

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

eternity x are DT copycats too, on the mp3 i downloaded there was a riff that was a direct copy from part of overture 1928. im pretty sure EX came out after too and osund inspired by em.

They've only released one album since Scenes. Obviously I don't know which track you've heard but all the Eternity X I've listened to sounds far too '80s to sound like Dream Theater (I was quite surprised just now to find out they've only been around since the early '90s, actually).

Re DT/Metallica, I can hear it on Images and Words, but nothing since then really.
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Points: 289 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2005 at 14:38
to be totally honest i am not really that bothered who copied who Metallica make good music, DT make good music simple as....
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2005 at 17:19
Originally posted by Jim Prog Wizard Jim Prog Wizard wrote:

I know that DT are undoubtadly influenced by Metallica, but then DT are a considerably better band than Metallica ever were.

And no, I don't just mean better musicians, a mean a better BAND.  Songwriting, performance, consistency, the whole shebang.

I guess it's taste - but I completely and utterly disagree with that - Metallica's early songwriting was amazing, their performances were blistering - and as for consistency, Metallica NEVER wrote anything less than awesome for the first 3 albums, then went a bit eccentric (but DT liked it enough to actually copy the riffs - not be inspired by, but use the same riffs). What they did from 1991 onwards is unforgiven...  



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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2005 at 19:43

i feel like the only one to notice...

but ever since i heard heart of the sunrise by yes ive thought that intro fast riff sounds like the middle section of 21st century schizoid man.

any thoughts?
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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2005 at 09:37
cmon people! help me out here!
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