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Reed Lover
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Posted: February 15 2005 at 20:22 |
 Karnevil9 wrote:
Swinton MCR wrote:
As for ELP V Genesis - I've just re-listened to Tarkus and Trilogy...
Tarkus track is good in parts and AquaTarkus is V. Good - Side TWO IS COMPLETE PANTS !
Trilogy has two good tracks in Trilogy and The Endless Enigma and a so-so track in Abaddons Bolero,,,The rest is WARCH!
Compare with Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot (Same two years) - fookin hell - No comparisson - Every track (except "For absent friends") is better than the best offering on the two ELP albums, The ELP offerings are VERY VERY weak by comparisson !!!
I totally disagree with the above statement.
So your saying the ''Musical box'' & ''harold the barrel'' from NC is a better track than say ''Infinite space'' from 'Tarkus'??? i think not.
And how the hell can you not like ''Hoedown'' & '' Living sin'' from Trilogy & love the very poor(filler track) ''More fool me'' from the later 'SEBTP'..???
'Foxtrot' is consistant being very good.
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It's called personal opinion Mini-Me!
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Posted: February 15 2005 at 20:26 |
Reed Lover wrote:
It's called personal opinion Mini-Me!
Yeh i know what it is reed lover!
Whats your view then?
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Posted: February 15 2005 at 20:37 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
It's called personal opinion Mini-Me!
Yeh i know what it is reed lover!
Whats your view then?
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I'm still cringing after you praised Emerson's bulge.
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Posted: February 15 2005 at 20:49 |
Reed Lover
I'm still cringing after you praised Emerson's bulge.
Yeh ok man from utopia.Shiek ya buti if thats what your into
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Posted: February 15 2005 at 21:29 |
I've voted for Octopus...
But WHERE'S MAGMA'S M.D.K.??
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 14:06 |
Joren wrote:
I've voted for Octopus...
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me too.
Selling England by the Pound is awesome also.
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 14:16 |
I voted for "Dark side of the moon" but now I'm having second
thoughts.. "Selling england by the pound" is also one of my favourite
albums.. This is too hard. 
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 14:21 |
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Looks like I'm going to have to listen to Octopus then doesn't it - Must be a good album if it pushed SEBTP ???
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 16:28 |
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There aren't a lot of album in this list but i vote Angel's egg.....wonderful,mystick and innovative!
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Whell i saw mushroom head,i was born and i was dead...
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Posted: March 04 2005 at 18:44 |
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KC - Larks
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Posted: March 04 2005 at 20:25 |
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SEBTP
if that wasnt there I would have picked octopus.
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Posted: March 04 2005 at 21:00 |
Swinton wrote a couple weeks ago:
| How CAN a Genesis fan* say that DSOTM is BETTER than SEBTP (that just Beggars belief) - Firth of fifth and Cinema show is better than ANYTHING floyd ever wrote (IMHO). |
I answer this question, because I'm the Genesis fan who voted for DSOTM and didn't readthe question before.
I'm a Genesis fan, but even when SEBTP has great songs like Dancing with the Moonlit Night, Cinema Show and Firth of Fifth has also average traks (for Genesis quality) like Battle for the Epping Forest (Great vocal work but nothing else) and Aisle of Plenty (Which IMHO is a filler).
Plus one piece of crap (sorry, but I'm trying to be honest) like More Fool Me and a bad and poppy track like I Know What I Like.
But the main reason is because SEBTP doesn't have the dark a mysterious atmosphere that was their trademark, or at least it's weaker.
On the other hand, I find DSOTM a solid album from start to end with a strong concept, great atmospheres, excellent musicians at their peak and a magnifiscent production.
Karn Evil 9 wrote:
| So your saying the ''Musical box'' & ''harold the barrel'' from NC is a better track than say ''Infinite space'' from 'Tarkus'??? |
YES!!!!
Iván
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Posted: March 04 2005 at 22:48 |
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Larks Tongue edges out Selling England..
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 07:38 |
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My vote goes to "Dark Side of the moon". A true masterpiece.
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 07:56 |
Selling England..
BTW I have the impression we had exactly the same poll one month ago. Wouldn't it be possible to create a "crosslink" to older threads without looking them up every time. Sometimes I think of topics and I would rather be sure it wasn't discussed a 100 times. Maybe a popup : go to thread so and so on page ...
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 08:06 |
Personal tastes are such a strange commodity... because I can't understand anyone really loving SEPTP... Every time I listen to it , it bores me to death. The only decent song off it is "I Know What I Like"...
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 08:20 |
Righty - oh then......
Just watched the program from BBC2 about Dark Side of the Moon and it was very enjoyable,but the program re-inforced my opinion of the album. I know how popular it was and that is the key here. People say it works on several levels, in that it appeals to the "popophile" of the seventies but has something to offer the pure-progites, a kind of deeper musical experience if you like !
But in this case I happen to like Abacab (the track) which is very poppy but I like it non-the-less - Does Abacab work on different levels ? If you apply the logic of DSOTM then it certainly does - it's musically quite effective etc etc......
Thus, in my opinion this many-levels of interpretation is a fallacy - an "Emperors Clothes" jobby, which I'm sure you will have recognised is my favourite theorem for explaining a piece of musics strange attraction.....
DSOTM is a paradigm of the "Emperors Clothes" when applied to popular albums of the seventies and even today.......
Listen to it and you will realise that it is an extremely well produced (for 1973) album and it's this production that set's it apart, but as musical Genius is concerned - Selling England and Topographic Oceans are in a different league.
The biggest indictment of the technical deficiency is the use of sequencers - because Wright didn'y have the skill to produce the synthesizer effect in real-time........
Just listen to the Synth in Cinema Show / Firth of Fifth - what in DSOTM can equal that ???
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 08:37 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
The biggest indictment of the technical deficiency is the use of sequencers - because Wright didn'y have the skill to produce the synthesizer effect in real-time........
Just listen to the Synth in Cinema Show / Firth of Fifth - what in DSOTM can equal that ???
Swinton this is a genuine responce..i'd respect a genuine none skity responce too.
Come on Swinton a totally different style of band than Genesis.....Tony Banks was a dedicated keyboard player & had an avid intrest in the Synths available at the time anyway ..Quite an old fashion type of player too.
At a guess i recon Richard Wright would have been happy to just to plod along with the basics Organ & a basic synths lines.It was Roger who always wanted to push the band way ahead..He was the ones with the EMS synths on 'Dark side'...It would have been virtually impossible to make the effects without the inbuild sequencer don't you think.
Next i can see it coming...Keith Emerson with his Moog Modular step sequencers in with the '72 'Trilogy' release is swarming in Sequencer patterns....I thibk Keith would have been quite capable of playing without the electronic spare hand....& it was '72' as well.If the track required the pattern so be it,nothing to do with capability.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 08:48 |
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Yes - but - I have successfully produced music (of that ilk) using a Moog Rogue and a modern keyboard as a Sequencer (with midi) - I can happily design a complicated synth riff - play it (very slow with one finger) then speed it up using the sequencer....No skill required (other than that of the computers I work with....)
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