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barbs 
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Joined: June 04 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 562 |
 Posted: July 12 2005 at 00:32 |
Thanks Tony. And I do get where you are coming from with this. One of the amazing things is the British Bulldog spirit that seems to come out in these situations which is a real encouragement and which I think serves to say 'you won't defeat us with violence'. I just think that there are some people, even on this site, to whom the shock was a little to close to home and I just thought we could wait a little bit before we 'got stuck into it' about the whys and wherefores thats all. IMO some people are very matter of fact about things (you appear to be like that) and others are different personality types who tend to need more time to deal with it. In this instance I was hoping that we could be really compassionate towards the latter, thats all. Edited by barbs |
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barbs
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 01:08 |
Maani, nowhere did I use the expression 'community in grief'. Most of us are very distant from the event and are therefore not directly affected by it. I totally agree about the media. They get as much mileage out of something as they possibly can. However, I noticed that in a couple of posts there were comments coming from a few people that indicated that they felt we were being insensitive about it. When I considered what they said it became apparent to me that our need to 'present our case' or just simply argue about this, held precedence at times to the way a few people seemed to be feeling. I stared the thread (anyone could have) so I felt a bit personally responsible for how people seemed to be responding. If you find my comments disingenuous then so be it. What in your opinion and experience is a reasonable amount of time for someone to 'move on'? On a positive note, I can at least feel some sense of achievement for the inadvertent comraderie u and Tony have developed on this issue. Edited by barbs |
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sigod
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 06:28 |
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On a positive note, I can at least feel some sense of achievement for the inadvertent comraderie u and Tony have developed on this issue. [/QUOTE]It'll never happen again Barb, trust me.  |
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Tony R
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 07:15 |
On a positive note, I can at least feel some sense of achievement for the inadvertent comraderie u and Tony have developed on this issue. [/QUOTE]
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Certif1ed
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: July 12 2005 at 08:12 |
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Did anyone else notice this side story? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4673987.stm
"Lieutenant Gloria Smith, based at RAF Mildenhall, said: "It's just a prudent measure, it's normal procedure any time there's such an incident. "Our presence in Great Britain is our voice of saying we stand with the British people. We have a long historic relationship and we will stay here to stand by the British people." "
...except when it looks a bit dangerous out there, eh Gloria? Normal procedure to say "Oh look - there's trouble - let's leave the Limeys to it..."
Who was the American Colonel then? Sanders?
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Tony R
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Posted: July 12 2005 at 16:44 |
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Tony R wrote:
), I basically agree with Tony (Oh no!). Although I realize and appreciate that people need time to grieve or simply get over the general shock of an incident like the London bombings, I, too, find it somewhat disingenuous to talk about a "community in grief." As Tony notes, this may be true when you actually know someone who died or got injured. However, other than that, the entire "community in grief" issue is something of a "whitewash": all it does is focus on the "negative" (usually for far too long, at least as the media would have it, since they have papers and advertising to sell...), rather than on anything of "substance." Again, I am not belittling in any way the need for people to grieve (if they knew someone involved) or get over shock: heck, I minister to people in those situations fairly often. However, people also need to "move on," and all the media does is in many cases is attempt to delay or interfere with that.
