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bluetailfly
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Topic: Jethro Tulls "Thick As a Brick" #1 Prog? Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:14 |
I'm as fair-minded and reasonable as the next prog rock affciando, and I try to live and let live, and I believe all you need is love, and that love is the answer, and take all Jon Anderson's lyrics to heart, but...
I am tired of seeing Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" as the #1 prog album week after week. First of all, I don't even think there is any one person who would say that it is worthy of that position, even a Tull fan. I think some logical glitch in the Prog Archives rating system is at fault here.
Granted, we all like Ian Anderson's humororous, outlandish concept and Martin Barres commanding guitar licks, etc., but, I'm sorry, the band is not even in the same league with many other more quintessential prog bands, for example, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, and dare I say it, even ELP (at the height of their powers).
Why is "Brick" #1? By what rating system is this injustice allowed to prevail?
What do others think? Has this come up before and been fully discussed?
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Aaron
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:24 |
I agree
i prefer A Passion Play, and it isnt number 1 either, i dont really know what is, I guess I would pick CttE
I find Thick's high rating very surprising
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:24 |
Hi BTF,
While I think many of us would agree that Tull are perhaps not the number one prog band overall, the album TAAB has to be right up there with the greats of prog.
Granted there are several contenders, and in all probability if other methods of calculation were used, it might not be number one, but I'm sure TAAB would still be pretty damn close. Check out some of the reviews to see why so many people here rate it so highly!
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:25 |
A democracy is a state which recognizes the subjecting of the minority to the majority..
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:37 |
thick is very representative!
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Garion81
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:45 |
Considering the date of its release Thick As A Brick is easily one of the top five prog albums historicaly if not in content.
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:50 |
Tull at an impromptu outdoor gig recently..
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 14:59 |
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:01 |
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frenchie
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:12 |
i wish they would get rid of that list! its gonna cause so many disagreements, i dont see why we need to have a list of the best albums when we have a key albums list and a soon to arrive history of prog.
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:18 |
bluetailfly wrote:
First of all, I don't even think there is any one person who would say that it is worthy of that position, even a Tull fan.
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I beg to differ.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:20 |
Jethro Fish wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
First of all, I don't even think there is any one person who would say that it is worthy of that position, even a Tull fan.
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I beg to differ.
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Don't beg,it is soooo unbecoming.
So come on: Jethro Tull it's all "hey nonnie-nonnie"-discuss.
Edited by Reed Lover
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:27 |
frenchie wrote:
i wish they would get rid of that list! its gonna cause so many disagreements, i dont see why we need to have a list of the best albums when we have a key albums list and a soon to arrive history of prog. |
Disagreements are good. Without them the forum would be dull dull dull. (First one to rhyme dull with Jethro Tull gets a Cliff Richard CD!)
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:35 |
That's one Sir Cliff Richard CD to Easy, then...
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Aaron
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:37 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Tull at an impromptu outdoor gig recently..
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what the hell is going on there? seriously it looks awesome
Aaron
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:38 |
It does not take long to mull
On the dullness of the Tull
Dull,dull,dull;The Tull
Just like Amon Duul
err.... are...
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:40 |
Aaron wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Tull at an impromptu outdoor gig recently..
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what the hell is going on there? seriously it looks awesome
Aaron
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Tull were in the final of the "Let's Look Like Total t**sers" challenge, but had to give in when ELP turned up!
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 15:58 |
bluetailfly wrote:
I am tired of seeing Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" as the #1 prog album week after week. First of all, I don't even think there is any one person who would say that it is worthy of that position, even a Tull fan.
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Whether you are tired of seeing "Thick As A Brick" as #1 or not, it is the overwhelming consensis of the people who have reviewed and rated that album.
Don't proclaim to speak for all Tull fans. I think it is worthy. Stop whining. The world does not revolve around you.
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 16:01 |
Reed far be it from me to convert you but Thick as a Brick, Not Tull in General, is what we are discussing. I think the album moves in a very distinct progressive line with great use of the hammond, flute and guitar and no synths. It is originial in its concept and the use of the said instruments. I love the solo spots in the middle of the first section and the end of the fisrt section when the hammond comes screaming in.
The first 22 minute section to me is the best thing JT ever did. If it comes across to you as too much English folk (which is what I think you mean by Hey-Nonnie-Nonnie) it was kind of something unique to others not from England. There is a particular dynamic in this work that I think really set some standards for others of it's day.
Not only one of the best prog rock albums but one of the best rock albums period.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 03 2005 at 16:03 |
Certif1ed wrote:
That's one Sir Cliff Richard CD to Easy, then...
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Forgot to mention, second prize is TWO Cliff records!
(By the way, did you know the band Biffy Clyro is named after free pens offered by his fan club, i.e. Cliffy Biros!)
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