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Sweetnighter
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Topic: Joe Satriani Posted: February 28 2005 at 20:56 |
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frenchie
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:00 |
i have only heard his surfing with the alien album, my friend giacas has told me about the sorta music he plays and wot he is like on tour n stuff, sounds like a god to me
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:01 |
satriani? sure!
guitar heroes:
1 vinnie moore
2 malmsteen
3 satriani
4 steve vai
flying in a blue dream is THE album!
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tuxon
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:01 |
who the hell is Joe Satriani, I know his name, but never borthered to check out his playing, shame on me , didn't he fill in for R. Blackmore on Deep Purple some blue monday?
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:04 |
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Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:10 |
Eh. Alright.
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 00:41 |
My brother was telling me the other day that Satch got his start filling in for Brian Jones shortly after he died during the American leg of that year's Stones tour. Can anybody verify this?
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 02:43 |
Sweetnighter wrote:
tuxon wrote:
who the hell is Joe Satriani, I know his name, but never borthered to check out his playing, shame on me, didn't he fill in for R. Blackmore on Deep Purple some blue monday? |
No, he's a soloist. He's sort of an isolated artist... can't think of any other big artists he's jammed with. I may be wrong though.
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He's jammed with Vai and Malmsteen to name but two... and I believe he taught Malmsteen amongst others.
Vinnie Moore is a kinda 2nd-rate Satriani... come to think of it, Moore is nowhere near as inventive. Tony McAlpine should appear on any list of "Gods" in this category, but they all share the same failing, with the exception of Vai; They can all play mind-scramblingly fast licks - and tend to, even where fast licks aren't appropriate. They're virtuosos for the sake of virtuosity, generally - although "Surfing With the Alien" has some great moments (title track, Satch's Boogie).
In his own right, Satriani is a guitar god. In the context of prog, he's alright - nothing truly boundary pushing except in playing technique, but all these guitarists (with the exception of Vai ) quickly become mind-numbingly boring and cliched, as they over-use the techniques.
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 02:44 |
"Eh. Alright." Joe can play his scales, but he lacks originality. Actually, he may not have any at this point!
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 02:54 |
I've only heard 'Not of this Earth' and 'Surfing with the alien' neither of which I really liked. There's no doubting the mans skill, but NOTE sounded mostly like elevator muzac to me, and SWTA just irritated me. I'm not a big fan of guitar heroes. I know Joe Satriani is not really a speed guitarist unless the music warrents it; he's more innovative than the likes of Malmsteen IMO, but frankly the lot of them bore me.
I'd rather listen to a guitarist who, I think, takes the music more seriously, and is less obsessed with showing how techinically brilliant they are for the sake of it.
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Valarius
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 03:34 |
Cool rock grooves.
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 04:41 |
tuxon wrote:
didn't he fill in for R. Blackmore on Deep Purple some blue monday? |
Yes. He did play with Deep Purple for a while, before they hired Steve Morse. Surfing with the Alien was a good album, but after that he's been just boring. I wish they would finally give him his Grammy Award, so he could move on and do something new and interesting again.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 04:48 |
I'm sure somebody will correct> The story I'm told is Steve Vai, while with Zappa (or just after), decided to improve his guitarwork and ended with the Satriani the guitar teacher. Apparently Satriani's reputation then spread as the master shredder. As far as I've discovered the guy only looks up to is Allan Holdsworth (there is at least one long interview by Satriani of Holdsworth in 80's guitar magazines); ironically I feel the worst Holdsworth or Satriani recording is the one they did together IMHO, Radio Free Albumuth (on a Stu Hamm album of the same name). Personally, I find little to hold my attention across a number of Satriani albums (Surfing With The Alien having its moments). As I've said elsewhere, somebody might be the best musician in the world but without a decent set of tunes/compositions, that musician will keep the musos only happy and the rest of us bored. This tends to be true with other highly skilled/technically able shredders - however, when they do covers then watch out for fireworks! For instance, I've tried 5 Yngwie Malmsteen albums, and find his covers album Inspirations is way ahead, probably because he is playing some great tunes. The pretentiously titled The Infinite Steve Vai: An Anthology, (you might guess a compilation of Vai's recordings) is also one of those albums which highs of technically ability, and lows in tunes and arrangements - I challenge you sit through it in one sitting.
Satriani did take the lead guitar vacancy temporarily in Deep Purple , just before Steve Morse took up the poison challace. I eventually laid my ears on a 20 minute boot - it was so badly mixed that every time Jon Lord played any keys, Satriani was swamped out - however, when Joe did get through the wash, he sounded his own man and fitted the task well.
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 07:12 |
He's better than the shredders Malmsteen and Vai (his former student I believe) ... but I sold both Satriani albums I owned ... and left a concert festival headlined by Jethro Tull ... just before G3 (Vai, Satriani and Eric Johnson) came on ...
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 07:24 |
satriani, without a doubt is the guitar god you been searching for .
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Calvo
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 07:43 |
Joe Satriani is the best guitar player in the world!!! That's all I have to say.
He was the teatcher of Steve Vai and Kirk Hammett (Metallica).
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 09:12 |
Calvo wrote:
Joe Satriani is the best guitar player in the world!!! That's all I have to say.
He was the teatcher of Steve Vai and Kirk Hammett (Metallica).
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But he looks up to Allan Holdsworth?????????????
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 09:18 |
I found the title track Flying in a blue dream - OK but the rest of the CD was boring and he just lacks the ability to produce interesting music - full stop !
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 10:12 |
I have a few of his albums and he is definitely a smoking guitar player. I picked up his latest album just before Christmas and it is right up there with Surfing With The Alien I l also grabbed the G3 album with Ywingie and Steve Vai and he is by far the most creative and accessible of the three. My vote went to # 2 cool rock grooves.
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MattiR
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 08:03 |
I find him boring...........
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