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Peter
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Topic: Guilty Pleasures Posted: April 27 2004 at 18:48 |
Okay, by now we know that Velvetclown has a thing for Mariah Carey, Vibrationbaby is a newly-out-of-the-closet "King" fanatic, and my first-ever single was "Sugar Sugar," by the Archies.
What other decidedly non-prog music do these arrogant, cerebral and smug PROGRESSIVE ROCK fans listen to?
I confess, that, besides the predictable prog in the last couple of days, I have listened to my Best of Johnny Cash cd ("The Man in Black," in particular, is a thoughtful song), and my Best of Roger Miller disc: "Trailers for sale or rent, rooms to let fifteen cents. No phone, no pool, no pets -- I ain't got no cigarettes...."
How about the rest of you? Jim, have you been bopping to Abba? Do you secretly prefer "Super Trooper" to "Starship Trooper?"
What about you, Danbo, oh man who has heard every prog album, ever? Any Wham! in your CD rack, or under your mattress?
What do you guys have in your collections that would surprise (even shock and dismay) the rest of us?
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Dick Heath
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Posted: April 27 2004 at 19:20 |
Cliff Richard's "Cinderella" (music from his Christmas panto), its only
redeeming feature is the legendary Hank Marvin plays the guitar. I also
have Sir Cliff Richards first album "Cliff!" but this is one of
the best British rock'n'roll albums of the 50's and it is the first
ever recording of a electric bass guitar played by a British group
(i.e. by Jet Harris who did the first ever bass guitar lead recording
"Jet Black" on this a album) - apparently Mantovani's Orchestra have it
for the first British recording with bass guitar.
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Mattjam65
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Posted: April 27 2004 at 19:44 |
I wouldnt really call them "guilty pleasures" but I listen to alot of non-prog that some art-rock types might laugh at.................
I am a big Merle Haggard fan
George Strait is another one
I also listen to alot of cheesy 80's synth pop like Psychedlic Furs, the Smiths, the Cure etc.etc.
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Posted: April 27 2004 at 21:49 |
No WHAM Peter, Sorry. But I do enjoy some Yankee Alternative Rockers;
Better then Ezra
Big Head Todd and The Monsters
and
Sister Hazel
Good stuff and I'm not embarrassed.
Now, ask me about my ex-wife and I'll cry.....
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Peter
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Posted: April 27 2004 at 21:49 |
Mattjam65 wrote:
I wouldnt really call them "guilty pleasures" but I listen to alot of non-prog that some art-rock types might laugh at.................
I am a big Merle Haggard fan
George Strait is another one
I also listen to alot of cheesy 80's synth pop like Psychedlic Furs, the Smiths, the Cure etc.etc. |
Thanks Rich, Matt!
Cliff Richard, hey? I have two home-made 30-track 50s compilations myself.
Country? Careful! A lot of the guys here -- but not me -- think that country is all pathetic, red-necked, trailer-trash, alcoholic hurtin' songs. That is only the more obvious, cliched aspect of the genre. Country is much bigger than that, and is much more diverse than the people who don't listen to it (or only know it from radio) seem to think it is!
Re the 80s music, Matt, I enjoy all of the groups you named, and many others. Many people (including some here) will sweepingly condemn all of 80s music ("80s music sucked!"), as if all of the music recorded in that decade were the same, or as if we had all become shallow, money-hungry, coke-sniffing yuppies during those years. As I recall, even if you weren't into bands and artists as diverse as Dire Straits, the Smiths, the Cure, Ultravox, The Jam, Stranglers, XTC, Echo and the Bunnymen, The The, The Specials, Talking Heads, Japan, Madness, etc., etc. (for me, "80s" music ran from about '78 to '87), excellent examples of other, more established forms of music continued to be made. There was blues, metal, reggae, jazz fusion, jazz, some very nice "new age," and even some prog acts (Tangerine Dream, Peter Gabriel, etc.) that didn't "sell out." Thus, when I hear people, especially the teens to twenty-five set, say "80s music sucked," I can only conclude that they really don't know what they are talking about. It wasn't all synth-bink! I was there!
Now, let's here from others! The more non-prog, the better, guys! C'mon, 'fess up! (I don't mean jazz or classical, either -- I know that prog fans listen to those. I want commercial, radio-friendly stuff!) This is interesting!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 00:26 |
In first place hello to everyone, this is my first post in this forum.
Yes, we all have some guilty pleasures, even the old progheads like me:
1.- OMD....Enola Gay: Don't know why but I like the cheesy Farfisa (or similar, not sure) keyboards in this song.
2.- Meat Loaf....Objects in the Rear view Mirror may Appear Closer than they Are: Holy God!!! even the name of the song is cheesy but Meat's powerfull voice and Jim Steinman's keyboards are my weakness.
3.- BTO....Not Fragile: Yes I like some easy rock.
4.- ELP....Canario: Believe it or not, I lijke one song from the worst prog' (???) album ever released Love Beach.
5.- Jackson Browne....For America: Not rock, not country, nothing special, but I love this song.
Iván
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 00:47 |
SOME SONGS I DO LIKE ARE
GLEN CAMPBELL
GALVESTON
BY THE TIME I GET TO PHOENIX
WHERES THE PLAGROUND SUZEI
TOM JONES
GREEN GREEN GRASS OF HOME
WHATS NEW PUSSYCAT
I ALSO LIKE CLASSICAL GAS
ROY ORBISON
CRYING
RIGHTOUS BROTHERS
UNCHAINED MELODY
THE BEACH BOYS
SAIL ON SAILOR
IN FACT THE BAECH BOYS STARTED TO STEAR AWAT A BUT FROM THE "SURF" SONGS IN THE SEVENTIES
D B GRAEVES
TAKE A LETTER MARAI
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richardh
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 02:42 |
I've always liked the seventies glam rock band The Sweet and more recently The Darkness.Would these count as 'guilty pleasures'?
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 03:04 |
Hmmmmmm, guilty pleasures, eh?
well you should all know by now of my love of psy-trance dance grooves (stop laughing, Peter), but as this is actually classed as progressive trance (I kid you not), I will forego boring you all again in this vein.....
I will also leave out my love for '30s '40s & '50s jazz, classical music etc, as I believe many people here share those interests.
However -
You do not yet know of my love of Soft Cell (perfect electronic pop with incisive lyrics).
Would you be shocked if you knew that I am secretly hoping for a Duran Duran reunion (no, I'm not pulling your chain, in my opinion, they were a great band)?
And there you have it! My guilty secrets exposed!
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 03:17 |
Hi:
Well, I have most Erasure albums, and really enjoy them. Also, the whole Thomas Dolby discography. I wish he had continued recording. By the way, he is cited as a main influence by Ian Anderson when he turned to synth music and released this pair of crappish records (Walk into light and Under Wraps)
In fact, I like in small doses many 80's groups: A-HA's Hunting High and Low is a great record. And count on me on the defense of Enola Gay.
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 07:30 |
Aha! Meatloaf, Glen Campbell, Tom Jones, Soft Cell: now we're getting the goods, and finding out about people's "Tainted Love!"
BTW, I have Big Head Todd and John Lee Hooker doing "Boom Boom Boom," and two different versions of Enola Gay! Papa Prog is "proud of Little Boy(s) today!"
I think that Dude is in the lead re "shock factor" so far, with "Take a Letter Mariah" and Tom Jones....
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 07:54 |
Electric blues, like Muddy Waters, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Barefoot Servants, Gary Moore's blues solo stuff and early ZZ Top.
Though I can't say that I feel particularly "guilty" about it.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 08:08 |
First off here is my Elvis collection:
'68 Comback Special
Elvis' Gold records Vol.II 50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong
Elvis Country
Loving You (original pressing worth $$$$$$$$$$$)
Live From Madison Square Gardens
Aloha From Hawaii (Quadra-disc)
Live From Memphis
Change Of Habit ( RCA Camden label )
Almost In Love (Also RCA Camden, Rubberneckin' is one of my Elvis Faves)
Separate Ways ( Also RCA Camden)
Elvis In Concert ( His final show in 1977)
Blue Hawaii (Original Pressing worth $$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
I might even have some more hiding away in my album collection.
Fortunately I don't have any Donny Osmond albums or anything by the Partridge Family. I have Arrival by ABBA and actually think this band has certain qualities. As for the eighties Peter, I don't think it completely sucked. I've got Sons & Fascination by The Simple Minds as Well as the Tower Of Strength EP by The Mission. I've also got Stop Making Sense by The Talking heads which I love. I have two Sex Pistols albums, Never Mind The Bullocks and Who Killed Bambi? I have Ministry The Land Of Milk & Honey as well as Roger Whitacker's Greatest hits. Grand Funk Railroad Live Album, Alice Cooper Billion Dollar Babies, Cheap Trick Live At Budokan (who doesn't have this one), Frampton Comes Alive, Fantastic (A K-tel compilation album which featured Hocus Pocus by Focus) Well, I could go on and on but you get the jist. I listen to just about everything under the sun not only Prog-rock. Peter must know a band from Newfoundland called Figgy Duff I've got three of theirs, Pam is one frigged up chick! It would be interesting to catologue my music collection.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 09:22 |
Quote: Cliff Richard, hey? I have two home-made 30-track 50s compilations myself.
At his best there isn't much wrong with Cliff (officially as sold more singles in the UK than anybody else) - but watch out for the grannies who now go to his gig! Trouble is Richard can release a lot of rubbish in between the good ones. Interesting again to see the Canadian awareness of the man, which never really travelled south across your border with the USA. Clearly Neil Young listened to and is a self-confessed fan of Cliff's original guitarist Hank Marvin - the Hank referred to in the Young song "Hank to Hendrix", is Marvin rather than Hank Williams most preople think, at least according to Young in interview - more proof, check out the Hank Marvin tribute album "Twang" with Young and Randy(?) Bachman doing a cover, and Peter Green doing another. Another Hank to Hendrix fan is the Norwegian jazz rock guitarist Terje Rypdal -listen to his guitar solos for the melding of two quite different rock styles.
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 09:36 |
Nothing wrong with Soft Cell - or Duran Duran. I even like some early Numan stuff AND Nik Kershaw.
Tom Jones is an awesome singer!! Nothing wrong there!!
The two Bs of ABBA were awesome at writing clean, crafted pop songs with incredible arrangements, and the two As were gorgeous!
However, my "Guilty" secret is that I like Barbra Streisand. Not just a little - she was my childhood fantasy - a woman with a sense of humour and a voice that made my spine tingle every time. So what if she had a nose that looked like it was the model for the front of Concorde? I was into personality, even aged 8. I've got most of her albums, but Guilty (with the BeeGees) is one of the best - it's superb for winding down to - especially the awesome track "Make it Like a Memory". I can also recommend "Wet", if only for the 8-minute "No More Tears" duet with Donna Summer - who is also superb, IMNSHO.
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 09:51 |
Guilty Pleasures...hmmm...
let's see what I got:
- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds ...but that's kind of 'normal' I think...
- Finntroll ...I think it is really funny because I imagine the band dancing around a fireplace, drinking beer instead of playing and the language is quite funny...
- My Dying Bride - Yes, VERY slow doom metal...there's no music in this world that is more melancolic (maybe Vand der Graaf sometimes)
- O.k. guys now I will take the lead because I liked the MTV Shakira Unplugged (but to defend me, it was her old stuff before she was WORLD famous), shame on me
- and I bought the new Norah Jones album 'feels like home', yes I did ...
but that's all, with exept of some classic Rock like Led Zep, Uriah Heep and Roy Harper and some (not much) 'classical' musicI just listen to prog (including Fusion/jazz)...
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 10:27 |
Except for (c)RAP, I've have just about every genre out there. Blues, Country, 80's synth rock, new age (love George Winston and Michael Hedges (RIP)).
My wife and I do the KARAOKE thing. We even have our own machine. .
I've been told I've got the Bowie vocals down pretty well. Egad, too much info, eh?
Last night I was arranging my "NEW" den (Marty (wife) calls it my CAVE) and, much to my chagrin and dismay, I found my wife's collection of Mariah Carey/Celine Dion CD's, ugh!!!. Really guys, they are not mine, really they're not. Please believe me. Don't banish me from this forum, please...
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 12:20 |
Tough call... I don't want to be stirring things, as a relative newcomer, but to actually admit having such disgusting artifacts in one's abode constitutes a breach of several Progarchives regulations, if I'm not very much mistaken...
Perhaps you should take a penance - I know the very thing!
You must sit and listen to "Looking For - The Very Best of David Hasselhoff [IMPORT]" for an entire week.
Hmm. Maybe a bit harsh - OK, 5 minutes then - but not a second less!!!
Tip: Hot Shot City is particularly good...
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Posted: April 28 2004 at 12:24 |
< Hasselhoff's on FIRE!!!!!
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