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    Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:10

filled with a sense of soft-tended prog?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:15

Who's Sperantza? The new DallasBryan (sorry DBEmbarrassed..) or the new Wallace...Angry

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:22

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 13:24

C'mon Fudge..pack it in!!Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 05:55

well, it's a quite old topic but I saw it newly!

I vote in favor of Herbie! has produced 3 of the best fusion albums I've ever listened! (Sextant, Head Hunters, Man Child) maybe there's even more...

after all, Al Di Meola is also here! Why not herbie? (this way, we'll have one more black person in progarchives!!)

Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 05:57
No, but there are some Miles Davis albums that should be...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 06:07
Disco-funk-jazz. What I hate most. The next step is Whitney Houston.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 08:46
And the step after is an equally nonsensical comparison.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:20

Originally posted by rockandrail rockandrail wrote:

Disco-funk-jazz. What I hate most. The next step is Whitney Houston.

 

Thelma Houston - these ladies are related - did a stormer with Scott Henderson (Tribal Tech are here Johnny) on Tore Down House.

 

But too little of Hancock's repertoise/discography is jazz rock even jazz funk to be relevant.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:26
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by rockandrail rockandrail wrote:

Disco-funk-jazz. What I hate most. The next step is Whitney Houston.

 

Thelma Houston - these ladies are related - did a stormer with Scott Henderson (Tribal Tech are here Johnny) on Tore Down House.

 

But too little of Hancock's repertoise/discography is jazz rock even jazz funk to be relevant.

One of my favorite Henderson albums - great mix of humor, Fusion and Blues.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 09:49
I think that the Mwandishi albums should be included, but as Mwandishi (Herbie Hancock). After all, Chick Corea was only involved in jazz/rock for about the same length of time as Hancock, but nobody has a problem with Return to Forever being included.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 12:32
Tell me when Herbie Hancock is permitted in,thats when I say farewell Get a grip !!!!

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Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:02

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

Tell me when Herbie Hancock is permitted in,thats when I say farewell Get a grip !!!!

Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie Hancock's music.  His Mwandishi period was some of the most creative music ever made, and his Sextant-Headhunters-Thrust-Manchild albums fit comfortably into the fusion genre. 

Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the literal sense of the word -- much more musically experimental than dozens of the artistically bankrupt neo-prog and prog metal crap that gets praised so much in there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:10
Originally posted by yargh yargh wrote:

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

Tell me when Herbie Hancock is permitted in,thats when I say farewell Get a grip !!!!


Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie Hancock's music.  His Mwandishi period was some of the most creative music ever made, and his Sextant-Headhunters-Thrust-Manchild albums fit comfortably into the fusion genre. 


Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the literal sense of the word -- much more musically experimental than dozens of the artistically bankrupt neo-prog and prog metal crap that gets praised so much in there.




i'll stick to the neo-prog and prog metal crap you can have herbie
Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:17

Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie
Hancock's music.  His Mwandishi period was some
of the most creative music ever made, and his
Sextant-Headhunters-Thrust-Manchild albums fit
comfortably into the fusion genre. 


Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the
literal sense of the word -- much more musically
experimental than dozens of the artistically bankrupt
neo-prog and prog metal crap that gets praised so
much in there.

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Evidently he was too creative early on and not british
enough to be included. He produced as much good
progressive/fusion as the whole Cacklebury scene
so thats grounds for obvious omission.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:31
"not British enough" ?????


say wot ??
Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:35

His albums "headunters" or "Thrust" are classic  fusion albums. During these recordings in solo, Hancock delivered true, "authentic" progressive music (If I admit the term in its most generous sense)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 13:45
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

His albums "headunters" or "Thrust" are classic  fusion albums. During these recordings in solo, Hancock delivered true, "authentic" progressive music (If I admit the term in its most generous sense)

Agreed ... he would be a good addition.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2005 at 14:25
Herbie Hancock made his share of anodyne jazz funk, but anybody who judges his entire output on some slightly dodgy 80s hits should also dismiss Gabriel era Genesis on the basis of Invisible Touch, or Yes on the basis of The Big Generator. As much as I like Future Shock and Headhunters I wouldn't necessarily say they have a place in the archive, but the Mwandishi albums are as prog as jazz fusion ever got - electric keyboards, complex time signatures, adventurous synth work (on Crossings and Sextant) and imaginative arrangements. If you haven't heard those albums, shut the  up and beg, borrow or steal them as soon as possible.
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