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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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...and make the mp3s available to members only as an incentive for people who love prog rock music to register
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Joren ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 07 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 6667 |
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that would suck i think we should allow everybody to discover prog music. And allow everybody to share their opinion with us. Inappropriate ones should just be deleted. |
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Reed Lover ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
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Why? I do not understand. Why should opinions from non-members be relevant or usuful? |
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Garion81 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2004 Location: So Cal, USA Status: Offline Points: 4338 |
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This is true. We can't even get opinions from members to be relevant or useful most of the time.
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gdub411 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 24 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3484 |
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I resemble that remark |
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Dan Bobrowski ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5243 |
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Er, so is Reed.
Me too. |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Max, I'd support making it compulsory to register with the site to post reviews. If using the forum ID is the easiest way to do this, then that makes sense. A couple of things to consider though.
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Fitzcarraldo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
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I disagree with compulsory registration in order to post a review. I believe one of the reasons why ProgArchives is so popular is its open nature, unlike some of the other Prog Web sites that have a cliquey feel and a limited number of reviews and reviewers. I have read many good reviews by people who are clearly not members of these forums and who presumably are not interested in participating other than to record their love – or dislike – of one or more albums. And actually, I enjoy reading some of the more quirky reviews – they are quite entertaining even if I don’t agree with all of them (and I do agree with some, too). As to the argument that compulsory registration would put a complete stop to crass reviews or sarcastic reviews, I have my doubts. Look at how easy it has been for ‘multiple personality disorder’ in these forums (i.e. the same person registering under multiple nicknames, even going as far as to converse with their alter ego). Also, look at how much discussion – good and bad – the crass or sarcastic reviews have generated. If compulsory registration were to be instigated and were to succeed – and, as I said above, I have my doubts it would succeed completely – then there would be one less thing for people to discuss in these forums. Lastly, some people may simply not want to be hassled with registration but just want to record their view on an album. Some of these people don’t even speak English but want to leave their views on a particular album or albums. Will compulsory registration put these people off completely? Why discourage people from contributing? When I first discovered ProgArchives I thought the current model of allowing anyone to review an album easily was a breath of fresh air, and I still think that. As for the suggestion of making MP3s only available to those who register, I say something similar: the site is a breath of fresh air and let's keep it as easy as possible for people to discover progressive music. Joren sums it up nicely.
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Even though I agree with the com´pulsory registration only as the last solution posible, I believe the best option would be to create a special registration only for the review section, with a mechanism that rejects the same IP number, same e-mail or repeated user. Maybe a person would like to review and doesn't care about the forum, but I also believe we must protect our review section allowing everybody to post a review but with the obligation to log on using the same name or nickname and protecting ourself against multiple personalities. Iván |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Going back to Wilson's original post, here's 2 more by what is clearly the same person using differnt names again.
![]() ![]() Review by kim shwartz @ 3:56:59 PM EST, 2/6/2005 ![]() More proof perhaps that some sort of "registration" to post reviews is needed. Edited by Easy Livin |
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Sweetnighter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 24 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1298 |
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I disagree. Yes, everybody should be able to discover prog rock, but having all these random and anonymous people posting reviews just cludders the archives with opinions from unexperienced listeners. Although this site has nowhere near as much material on it, www.progreviews.com has a nice way of doing reviews... a select group of nine or ten people review all the albums. I'm not saying we should limit ourselves to that degree, but some limitation would be beneficial to everybody. |
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Wilson ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 17 2005 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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Some more of CAPS-LOCK GUY's witticisms,
in addition to the two Easy Livin mentioned above. Not all of these are
in all caps, but the Bill Bruford references, all-or-nothing ratings (1
or 5 stars only), and odd spaces before commas and periods are
giveaways. It's bizarre that he hasn't posted any reviews of Bill
Bruford's albums... Of course he's entitled to his opinions, but
these reviews don't contribute much to the quality of this
website.
It's amazing how few inappropriate reviews there are, considering how easy it is to post - I'd vote for not requiring registration as long as there aren't more problems like this. GENESIS Archive - Volume 2: 1976-1992 Review by Louis Pantera @ 2:48:33 PM EST, 1/16/2005 ![]() GENESIS Archive - Volume 2: 1976-1992 Review by JAHN LA PRAIRE @ 1:13:44 PM EST, 1/26/2005 ![]() GENESIS Turn It On Again - The Hits Review by kim arbuckle @ 3:20:30 PM EST, 1/23/2005 ![]() GENESIS Calling All Stations Review by DAR COTTAN @ 3:39:05 PM EST, 1/9/2005 ![]() GENESIS Calling All Stations Review by Dale Norton @ 2:14:52 PM EST, 1/10/2005 ![]() GENESIS Calling All Stations Review by Frank McDonald @ 3:04:05 PM EST, 1/18/2005 ![]() Review by danny decarlo @ 5:21:44 PM EST, 1/14/2005 ![]() |
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Wilson ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 17 2005 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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And here's another new one... his third review of this album (the other 2 were deleted earlier).
--------------------- GENESIS - Three Sides Live Review by Dan DeCarlo @ 5:47:22 PM EST, 2/8/2005 ![]() |
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tuxon ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 21 2004 Location: plugged-in Status: Offline Points: 5502 |
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Persistent little gopher
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4049 |
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Gopher's reviews deleted
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Prog On !
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Metropolis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 20 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 760 |
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This is the best one yet ![]() |
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We Lost the Skyline............
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FloydWright ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: January 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 369 |
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I'm wondering if he accidentally posted his review twice and couldn't delete it? Maybe someone needs to get this for him...
HORSLIPS - Book of Invasions: A Celtic Symphony Review by chris stacey @ 10:58:55 PM EST, 2/3/2005 PROG REVIEWER — fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffff |
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Hibou ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 24 2004 Status: Offline Points: 250 |
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Don't forget to remove the little bugger's latest under Tony Banks' album Seven. Thanks, Max. |
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Gene Police: You!! Out of the pool! |
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Wilson ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 17 2005 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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ATTENTION - here's one more, plus the ELP one that Easy Livin found earlier is still there. Looks like he's learned to turn off CAPS-LOCK, though the spacing around punctuation marks is the same. TONY BANKS Seven (A suite for orchestra) Review by Alex Corona @ 4:54:10 PM EST, 2/10/2005 ![]() TONY BANKS Bankstatement Review by Lawrence .T . Aldred @ 4:32:41 PM EST, 2/13/2005 ![]() EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (ELP) Love Beach Review by Alex Bruford @ 1:51:00 PM EST, 1/30/2005 ![]() Edited by Wilson |
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M@X ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4049 |
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Prog On !
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