Proof That Iraqis Love Dubya and America

Reed Lover wrote: Should watch it more closely Dork Boy. It was the Colt 45 which was known as The Peacemaker!!!!! It is too easy sometimes.

Actually I'd take the Winchester.  Longer range although less damage. Certainly had a huge effect on the last two years of the civil war.  Boys in gray didn't have them and the boys in blue did.  In fact I think Phil Sheridan really started something with his "mounted infantry" moving troops brigade and divison sized  by horse to a battle or during a battle all armed with the Winchester and other repeating rifles.  But hell, with medicine the way it was back then you could have killed someone with an icepick.

 

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Hangedman wrote: Rob The Good wrote: You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?! Hey Canada has a socialist government and we have the best education and health care in all of america. But *GASP* we dont have a good military!  like we need one.

Canada's social programs work because government legislation, particularly in terms of health care and drugs, forces low costs. Low costs result in medical providers jammed up in a system where they are hamstrung, unable to compete against other doctors in providing medical treatment, unable to use alternative medicine, unable to do basically anything other than what the government says they can do. Plus, if any Americans want to know why drug prices are so high in the US, its because other countries have price limitations... to balance the loss drug companies jack up prices in the states in order to make the kind of profits they want. So its no wonder that American seniors are heading to Canada to buy drugs... government coercion keeps prices down there. Should the US government try to put caps on drugs, I fear for the future of the drug industry... not so much in terms of whether or not they'll survive, which some might not, but the lack of competition in the market will really screw the consumers out of better, higher quality products. So as government medicine takes over in Canada, those in need of higher quality top-of-the-line medical care come to the States, to places like Cleveland, Chicago, and upstate New York where medicine hasn't been legislated into the ground, and Americans cross the border to take advantage of legislation that puts price caps on drugs. Why can't we just let the doctors take care of the medicine? Competition will grow, scientific development will prosper, drug prices will fall, and we won't have government agencies like the FDA withholding desperately needed drugs from the public because they haven't been "approved." After all, its not the government's responsibility to provide health care... let alone tell people whats best for them. I'd like to see where socialized medicine in Canada is thirty years from now.

Socialist programs do not make profits: they feed off of the public and drive governments deeper and deeper into debt. These programs work for a while, but as government corruption grows and funds lessen, these programs start to falter. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Welfare... all common examples. Anybody have any idea how heavily in debt the US government is, even excluding the Iraq war? Nobody knows, and frankly, who really wants to think about it? I don't. And I should add that diehard socialists will continually point to the rich portions of society and accuse them of greed and demand the government to steal their money and be like Robin Hood... and ask yourself: Do you want Robin Hood governing your country? Those who make money justly have the right to keep it... the US was founded on the principle of individual liberty and the right to reap the fruit of one's labor. If we give every man this opportunity, then individual's will thrive on their own rather than having to feed off of those who are already well off. Is being rich a crime?

Finally, I should add that public education sucks. Not all people are suited for standard western education, its as simple as that. Some people would be better off learning in different environments! So what good does shoving thousands of energetic, violent and passionate teenagers into thousands of brick and cement "schools" all around the country do them? Sure, some make it through with a decent understanding of the world, but so many don't. Some come out emotionally scarred by the fighting, teasing, boredom, sleeping around, peer pressure, harassment, what have you. Public school kids are treated much more like sheep than human beings... a girl who I'm friends with who goes to another school is getting B+'s and A-'s in her school and she got a 700 on the SAT! Doesn't that say something about the quality of education?

Furthermore, I do not support either the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party.

Wow, that was a rant.


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gdub411 wrote: Hangedman wrote: . I think the united states should take initiative and disarm thier own "weapons of mass destruction", i know the whole "BUT THEN THEY COULD NUKE/GASS US AND THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WE COULD DO". wrong, even without nuclear weapons united states still has the most powerfull military in the world. I think there is some things that man should not play with, and "mass destruction" is one of them. Yeah...and then I am sure the rest of  the world will follow suit and then get together for one giant hug!! Please!!!!

Hahaha, i was more suggesting an ultimatum, but whatever. Hey the USSR did it and you didnt nuke them. the fact is thier isnt one leader in the entire world who actually has th guts to do it, and if they did (and it wasnt the us) they would losthier power immediatly.

Hangedman wrote: Hey, I like the idea of not having to mortgage my house to get surgery. But i could be wrong.

I'm not saying that you should, all I'm arguing is that if you would have to mortgage your house to get surgery, that socialized medicine isn't the answer, because it just creates problems farther down the road. There are many other ways the government can address the issue, i.e., give tax breaks to doctors who charge less, give incentives to doctors who provide payment plans that extend over a long period of time. Or, even better, citizens can form Consumer Unions and boycott doctors or drug companies that overcharge needlessly. There is always more than one solution to any economic problem.

Hangedman wrote: Sweetnighter wrote: Hangedman wrote: Rob The Good wrote: You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?! Hey Canada has a socialist government and we have the best education and health care in all of america. But *GASP* we dont have a good military!  like we need one. Canada's social programs work because government legislation, particularly in terms of health care and drugs, forces low costs. Low costs result in medical providers jammed up in a system where they are hamstrung, unable to compete against other doctors in providing medical treatment, unable to use alternative medicine, unable to do basically anything other than what the government says they can do. Plus, if any Americans want to know why drug prices are so high in the US, its because other countries have price limitations... to balance the loss drug companies jack up prices in the states in order to make the kind of profits they want. So its no wonder that American seniors are heading to Canada to buy drugs... government coercion keeps prices down there. Should the US government try to put caps on drugs, I fear for the future of the drug industry... not so much in terms of whether or not they'll survive, which some might not, but the lack of competition in the market will really screw the consumers out of better, higher quality products. So as government medicine takes over in Canada, those in need of higher quality top-of-the-line medical care come to the States, to places like Cleveland, Chicago, and upstate New York where medicine hasn't been legislated into the ground, and Americans cross the border to take advantage of legislation that puts price caps on drugs. Why can't we just let the doctors take care of the medicine? Competition will grow, scientific development will prosper, drug prices will fall, and we won't have government agencies like the FDA withholding desperately needed drugs from the public because they haven't been "approved." After all, its not the government's responsibility to provide health care... let alone tell people whats best for them. I'd like to see where socialized medicine in Canada is thirty years from now. Socialist programs do not make profits: they feed off of the public and drive governments deeper and deeper into debt. These programs work for a while, but as government corruption grows and funds lessen, these programs start to falter. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Welfare... all common examples. Anybody have any idea how heavily in debt the US government is, even excluding the Iraq war? Nobody knows, and frankly, who really wants to think about it? I don't. And I should add that diehard socialists will continually point to the rich portions of society and accuse them of greed and demand the government to steal their money and be like Robin Hood... and ask yourself: Do you want Robin Hood governing your country? Those who make money justly have the right to keep it... the US was founded on the principle of individual liberty and the right to reap the fruit of one's labor. If we give every man this opportunity, then individual's will thrive on their own rather than having to feed off of those who are already well off. Is being rich a crime? Finally, I should add that public education sucks. Not all people are suited for standard western education, its as simple as that. Some people would be better off learning in different environments! So what good does shoving thousands of energetic, violent and passionate teenagers into thousands of brick and cement "schools" all around the country do them? Sure, some make it through with a decent understanding of the world, but so many don't. Some come out emotionally scarred by the fighting, teasing, boredom, sleeping around, peer pressure, harassment, what have you. Public school kids are treated much more like sheep than human beings... a girl who I'm friends with who goes to another school is getting B+'s and A-'s in her school and she got a 700 on the SAT! Doesn't that say something about the quality of education? Furthermore, I do not support either the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party. Wow, that was a rant. Hey, I like the idea of not having to mortgage my house to get surgery. But i could be wrong.

Indeed. I know someone who would have had to pay 10,000 dollars for her treatment over the last month. Ouch. Makes you glad you're not from the States. That reminds me, I should get my healthcare card renewed. 2 years expired!

haha, always funny when Americans lecture others about hard work.

^  (That was meant for rob's post)

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well we can't work because most of us are out of jobs

Almost 13 posts a day Gdub. Can't be working that hard.