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Rob The Plant 
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 Posted: January 30 2005 at 19:12 |
 Rob The Good wrote:
You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?!  |
So then ROB, you're my dopleganger! We must fight to the death!
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Hangedman
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 19:16 |
Rob The Good wrote:
You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?! |
Hey Canada has a socialist government and we have the best education and health care in all of america. But *GASP* we dont have a good military! like we need one.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 19:21 |
Hangedman wrote:
Rob The Good wrote:
You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?! |
Hey Canada has a socialist and we have the best education and health care in all of america. But *GASP* we dont have a good military! like we need one.
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Hey without a military you can't invade countries and destroy culturs though! That's terrible. I mean, where would Africa be without colonization!?
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gdub411
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:37 |
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! 
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gdub411
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:39 |
Rob The Plant wrote:
Hangedman wrote:
Rob The Good wrote:
You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?! |
Hey Canada has a socialist and we have the best education and health care in all of america. But *GASP* we dont have a good military! like we need one.
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Hey without a military you can't invade countries and destroy culturs though! That's terrible. I mean, where would Africa be without colonization!?
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Actually I think Africa was more stable when it was under the ruling thumb of Britain, France, Spain and Italy. There is more unrest and bloodshed there now then there was back in the good old days of colonization.
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Bryan
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:41 |
gdub411 wrote:
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! |
Or Canada doesn't get invaded because we don't go around pissing off the rest of the world.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:43 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! |
Or Canada doesn't get invaded because we don't go around pissing off the rest of the world.
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excellent point mate!
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:45 |
gdub411 wrote:
Rob The Plant wrote:
Hangedman wrote:
Rob The Good wrote:
You know, I can't stand Socialists. I'm leaving NZ as soon as I can because it is ruled by an EVIL Socialist government that hates me. They've ruined education and health care...where will they stop next?! |
Hey Canada has a socialist and we have the best education and health care in all of america. But *GASP* we dont have a good military! like we need one.
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Hey without a military you can't invade countries and destroy culturs though! That's terrible. I mean, where would Africa be without colonization!?
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Actually I think Africa was more stable when it was under the ruling thumb of Britain, France, Spain and Italy. There is more unrest and bloodshed there now then there was back in the good old days of colonization.
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yes, but like North America Africa would have been better if Europeans never colonized at all.
See the pattern?
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gdub411
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:48 |
Useful_Idiot wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! |
Or Canada doesn't get invaded because we don't go around pissing off the rest of the world.
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Hmm. that didn't work when Japan invaded China back in 37. That didn't work when Germany invaded Belgium, Holland, France, Poland ,etc,etc....back in 1939-1940. Should we go to the Napoleanic era? How about the Huns, the Vikings, The Mongols and such. Did they need any reason other than spoils of war? How about Saddam going into Kuwait? Shall I continue?.....
one doesn't need to instigate or provoke another to head off to war.
I'll say it again...Go back as far as you like and there will be proof that a weak military invites aggression.
you are young and idealistic UI as I was at one time too...perhaps in the future you'll see things in a better light.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:54 |
gdub411 wrote:
Useful_Idiot wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! |
Or Canada doesn't get invaded because we don't go around pissing off the rest of the world.
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Hmm. that didn't work when Japan invaded China back in 37. That didn't work when Germany invaded Belgium, Holland, France, Poland ,etc,etc....back in 1939-1940. Should we go to the Napoleanic era? How about the Huns, the Vikings, The Mongols and such. Did they need any reason other than spoils of war? How about Saddam going into Kuwait? Shall I continue?.....
one doesn't need to instigate or provoke another to head off to war.
I'll say it again...Go back as far as you like and there will be proof that a weak military invites aggression.
you are young and idealistic UI as I was at one time too...perhaps in the future you'll see things in a better light.
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Belgium was a nice route for the Germans. China was an enemy. Poland, "manifest Destiny "thing. Canada for one doesn't have to worry about that.
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gdub411
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:55 |
Rob The Plant wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
Useful_Idiot wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! |
Or Canada doesn't get invaded because we don't go around pissing off the rest of the world.
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Hmm. that didn't work when Japan invaded China back in 37. That didn't work when Germany invaded Belgium, Holland, France, Poland ,etc,etc....back in 1939-1940. Should we go to the Napoleanic era? How about the Huns, the Vikings, The Mongols and such. Did they need any reason other than spoils of war? How about Saddam going into Kuwait? Shall I continue?.....
one doesn't need to instigate or provoke another to head off to war.
I'll say it again...Go back as far as you like and there will be proof that a weak military invites aggression.
you are young and idealistic UI as I was at one time too...perhaps in the future you'll see things in a better light.
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Belgium was a nice route for the Germans. China was an enemy. Poland, "manifest Destiny "thing. Canada for one doesn't have to worry about that.
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correct...as I stated above....Canada isn't strategically important in the scheme of things....except maybe to harrass the US.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 20:59 |
gdub411 wrote:
Rob The Plant wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
Useful_Idiot wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
A weak military invites aggression....that can be proven throughout history. Canada isn't invaded, because it doesn't hold alot of strategic importance nor does it have any significant resources that one can't aquire elsewhere. Also, why have a military when the USA wouldn't stand for Canada being invaded. Worry not my larger, but weaker neighbor...the US will protect you! |
Or Canada doesn't get invaded because we don't go around pissing off the rest of the world.
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Hmm. that didn't work when Japan invaded China back in 37. That didn't work when Germany invaded Belgium, Holland, France, Poland ,etc,etc....back in 1939-1940. Should we go to the Napoleanic era? How about the Huns, the Vikings, The Mongols and such. Did they need any reason other than spoils of war? How about Saddam going into Kuwait? Shall I continue?.....
one doesn't need to instigate or provoke another to head off to war.
I'll say it again...Go back as far as you like and there will be proof that a weak military invites aggression.
you are young and idealistic UI as I was at one time too...perhaps in the future you'll see things in a better light.
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Belgium was a nice route for the Germans. China was an enemy. Poland, "manifest Destiny "thing. Canada for one doesn't have to worry about that.
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correct...as I stated above....Canada isn't strategically important in the scheme of things....except maybe to harrass the US.
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We agree then. America needs Defense though, not offense, and the more small countries they invade, the more they take, the less they can handle. Then their empire will crumble! hahahaha! And Canada can take over, and all of Norht America will be socialist!
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:02 |
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Oh, and I don't actually expect Canada to take over North America, though I recall someone who wrote a book predicting Canada will be the new super power after the US.
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Garion81
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:09 |
I agree with GDub on this. Over 50% of eligible voters turned out in Iraq.
No country that has free elections can claim better right now, I'll wager, including the United States. Even if they don't like Bush or Americas presence they turned out, historically, to create a new nation in a region ruled by dictators going back to Nimrod. They did so under the threat of death, amazing. If anyone here has a problem with that then you hate democracy.
If nothing else, no matter what happens, the people of Iraq at least have a small chance to create a government free of dictators or a pawn of rich fanatical terrorists. I wish them the best. It will be the first in that region among Arab countries.
Contrary to popular world belief the people of the United States don’t wake up every morning to kiss a picture of Dubya’s butt before leaving for work. There are things that bother me about his policies but those are more domestically than in Iraq. Lets talk about the secret contacts the French had with Sadam and the nuclear reactors they built there before we start bashing Dubya on getting rid of him. That is a far more dangerous and untouched subject on this forum. Oh, but the French had no reason to oppose the US policy on Iraq except pure humanitarian reason. Bullsh*t.
Oh, to our friends to the north even if Canada pissed someone off who cares?
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:13 |
America will fall deeper and deeper into debt, then realize it's not worth expanding. Kurds shi'ites, etc will battle over the land, and eventually a new anti-American government will emerge. You gave them the weapons fools!
DO they teach history in The States?
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:15 |
Garion81 wrote:
I agree with GDub on this. Over 50% of eligible voters turned out in Iraq.
No country that has free elections can claim better right now, I'll wager, including the United States. Even if they don't like Bush or Americas presence they turned out, historically, to create a new nation in a region ruled by dictators going back to Nimrod. They did so under the threat of death, amazing. If anyone here has a problem with that then you hate democracy.
If nothing else, no matter what happens, the people of Iraq at least have a small chance to create a government free of dictators or a pawn of rich fanatical terrorists. I wish them the best. It will be the first in that region among Arab countries.
Contrary to popular world belief the people of the United States don’t wake up every morning to kiss a picture of Dubya’s butt before leaving for work. There are things that bother me about his policies but those are more domestically than in Iraq. Lets talk about the secret contacts the French had with Sadam and the nuclear reactors they built there before we start bashing Dubya on getting rid of him. That is a far more dangerous and untouched subject on this forum. Oh, but the French had no reason to oppose the US policy on Iraq except pure humanitarian reason. Bullsh*t.
Oh, to our friends to the north even if Canada pissed someone off who cares?
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Democracy? 51% says yes, the other 49% can go to hell. That's democracy right?
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:16 |
you voted for a government which does the opposite of what you hire them to do!
Nice work.
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Garion81
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:18 |
Rob The Plant wrote:
Garion81 wrote:
cares?
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Democracy? 51% says yes, the other 49% can go to hell. That's democracy right?
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Lets see the US had 48% last election How many rode their donkeys to the polls in your last election? over 50% UNDER THE THREAT OF DEATH. You couldn't get 35% in 85 degree weather on a Holiday I bet. Wait you can't vote your not old enough.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:39 |
Garion81 wrote:
Rob The Plant wrote:
Garion81 wrote:
cares?
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Democracy? 51% says yes, the other 49% can go to hell. That's democracy right?
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Lets see the US had 48% last election How many rode their donkeys to the polls in your last election? over 50% UNDER THE THREAT OF DEATH. You couldn't get 35% in 85 degree weather on a Holiday I bet. Wait you can't vote your not old enough.
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I wasn't referring to voter turnout. I wish we rode donkeys up here!
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: January 30 2005 at 21:42 |
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Damn you Gdub, argue!
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