Vinyl Vs CD!

Welcome to the Forum KE9.

Too bad you missed Cert1fied. He was the vinyl man.

ahh the old record vs. CD debate. I think it should actually be reel-to-reel Vs. CD.

To be honest, I dislike the sound of record. I am a DIE hard fanatical 70s fan. I keep analog multitrack recorders and discrete consoles, all from the 70's, but I absolutely dislike listening to records. First, I hate the popping and scratching sounds. It makes it somewhat difficult to hear reverbs and it makes it harder to learn things by ear. Second, a record lathe can only attenuate as high as PLUS FOUR DB.

now with "new" CD's they can do an absolute fullscale mix, and that's why, in my opinion, re-mastered CD's sound much better than original pressing vinyls. You try to play 0 db fullscale on a record (let alone lathe) and I guarantee you that the record is going to melt or burn. Or something.

Analog tape is where it's at, and far exceeds CD's and records in terms of fidelity and texture. To me, prog is a delicate type of music, even if it is the crashing sounds of relayer. For that, you want the least noisy medium, yet still having the balls that digital lacks. Can anyone here can say they have heard Relayer at 7.5 IPS on a 1/4" reel? If you have, you will know it blows record out of the water. Another cool cheap thing to get into is quadrophonic 8-track. I have a quad cart of Breakfast in America. I think that sums it up

Best,
John
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TAPE RULES!!

CD DROOLS

(thats actually the real truth)

gdub411 wrote: You old geezers...while I may not be that much younger than you I act like I am. Get your heads out of the 70's and admit the cd is superior. Next thing you're going to tell me there was better special effects in the Six Million Dollar Man than there was in Lord of The Rings. I have a profound thing to say CDS RULE!! VINYL DROOLS!!!

Yeh, next time you get a full size Pink Floyd poster with post cards out of a cd ..... you let me know..

Actually try reading the credits on a cd without your glasses... betcha can't...

And of course my favorite album with the inside poster.... was about 100 times smaller with the cd...

I'm a personal fan of vinyl. Being 17 and living among a generation where MP3 players and iPods are more popular than CDs, I'm a minority, but I really enjoy collecting vinyl. As I've said in other threads regarding the topic, I enjoy the hunt just as much as I enjoy the sound. I like the warmth that vinyl has, the slight distortion really does it for me, and as has been said above the cover art and inserts and all the small things really make buying records fun! Plus, buying a record at the local shop could cost me a mere $1 and I'm not doing anything that would technically be illegal such as downloading it off the net free. I have roughtly 125 records, and considering I'm living as a teenager in 2005, i think its a decent accomplishment.

I miss the Vynil, but the technical advantages and the duration of the CD are to much for the vynil.

Hate the Cd's small art covers.

Iván

Sweetnighter wrote: threefates wrote: Glass-Prison wrote: However, you still can't play it in your car... However, you can copy it directly to cassette which plays pretty good in the car.. as long as you still have a cassette deck in your car... But also I have a friend who has transferred some of my vinyl to cd for me... the stuff I can't find on cd.. or record it to your computer and burn it to a CD, i've done that before and the sound quality is very good.

lol isnt that self defeating?

I have the CD of Triumvirat Pompiie (1977) burned from a record and a copy of the latest remaster. The record version sounds, good because it sounds full of tonal energy. The only problem is the popping and the cracking issues which are unavoidable usually.

from one teen to another, I would suggest you invest in quadrophonic 8-track (not vinyl, its more expensive and erica" on quad 8-track and man, whew, thatsurface-noisier). I mean I realize im being totally anal retentive here but isnt fidelity what listening to anything is all about? Vinyl does sound rocking, but its db limiting and surface scratchiness just make it inferior, like an mp3 (obviously not quite as bad!)

I tell you why man, at the goodwill I found a quadrophonic 8-track player for 3 bucks. Heads are in great shape, pinch roller, capstain-everything looked right. Try to get that great of a deal on a quad turntable, never going to happen. I found  Supertramp "breakfast in america" on quad. Damn is all I can say!! Not even 5.1 beats quadrophonic. Its like heroin. Listening to regular stereo makes me feel like I'm coming down (imagine listening to your fav bands in mono, lol). Another reason to invest in a 3 dollar 8 track machine (and I have purchased about a dozen in the 3-15 dollar range) is that they are incredibly simple to mod. I pushed mine up from a lame 3 - 3/4 IPs to 15, that 15 ips absolutely able to blow any single's lathe right out of the water.
bes,t
john

I only have three records, and I don't even have a record player.

CD's 4 life!

chorus of one wrote: I'm young so I missed the vinyl age. I couldn't tell you which sounded better, but I'd have to pick CDs just for the convenience. No nostalgia factor for me...

You don't know what you missed...

With a good equipement, vynil (or analog tape) is completely different than cd:

-Much more dynamic
-Much more precense
-Much better low frequencies (you can perfectly hear a bass line)
-Much better high frequencies ( you cry while hearing a violin)
-the sound has much more "matter" while cd sounds "thin".
etc, etc...
You can listen much louder, cause with Cd, distorsion increases with volume.
You can listen much longer, cause cd hurts your ears, at the point you can listen a long time;

I can continue to enumerate during hours, but overall:
with vynil, the EMOTION and PLEASURE are there.

It's the same with tube amp, versus transistor amp
(but good transistor amp are good for low frequencies in a bi-amp config)

I know someone who owns the best CD player on earth:
Mark Levinson drive and converter, total price with cables: 60.000 dollars (no joking) and it's quite good sounding.
But when you listen a 6.000 dollars turntable besides:
the turntable easily beats the cd!
So...