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Man Erg
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 08:15 |
70sSoundquality wrote:
Lets not forget the phenominal sounds of the Orchestron, Optigon, Birotron, and Polymoog
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Birotron.  Was someone trying to copy the Stylophone?
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 12:11 |
I love Moog solos - The Old Castle, Aquatarkus, Wakeman in the version of Starship trooper on the Keys from ascension - OTT or what !!!
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Garion81
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 12:18 |
With midi these days I can't think of sound that can't be reproduced so for me it has to be the feel and action of the keyboard. (for example; Native Instruments makes a great Hammond sound with it's B-4.) I learned on piano and it is really hard for me to play non weighted keys. Korg and Kurzwell make great weighted keys entries. Yamaha Clavinova action is my favorites.
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Lunarscape
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 14:47 |
Hammond b-3, Mini Moog and Mellotron and noo doubt that the Hammond sound is responsable for higher birthrates in the 70ies (LOL)
ThreeFates; Sorry to desagree a bit. The true King of the Hammond in Prog Rock is Thjiis Van Leer. Give "Moving Waves", Focus III and Hamburger Concerto a try and you'll know why !
The ARP Synths are well manuvered in the hands of the Master - Rick Wakeman (Also known as the King Of Moog !)
Roland Keyboards, especially the D-50 is ruled by Edgar Froese !
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 15:02 |
My favorite keyboards are an Oberheim OB-X for harmony parts and pads and Minimoogs and Arp 2600s for lead parts. I also like Moog Taurus Bass Pedals. These things have more fat in them than a truck load of donuts. I love the Moog Bass and the low filter on a Minimoog.
My favorite Minimoog sounds are ANYTHING played by Jan Hammer and the melody bridge in Tom Sawyer by Rush. I also like the Minimoog solo in Machine Messiah by Yes. That is probably the coolest.
I also like how Robert Fripp uses Mellotron. And, of course, anything with Hammond B3 is golden by my standards.
Long live MINIMOOG!!!
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 16:00 |
..and they still make Mellotrons!! The MK VI..
www.mellotron.com
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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asuma
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 16:07 |
my favourite sound on a keyboard is that very 80's/new wave chessy sound. along with the keyboard style that is present with the unicorns.
Of late, i have also become more a fan of samplers. even if it's playing one note very fast, then jumping up and down a scale very quickly, then back to the one note. it sounds very cool, and easy to dance to.
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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70sSoundquality
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 16:09 |
Man Erg wrote:
70sSoundquality wrote:
Lets not forget the phenominal
sounds of the Orchestron, Optigon, Birotron, and Polymoog
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Birotron. Was someone trying to copy the Stylophone?
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birotron was co -invented with Rick wakeman in 1978. You can only hear
it on 2-3 albums in the late 70s (tormato, rhapsodies) and on a NUMBER
of bootlegs. Birotron used 8-track cart tapes so the notes could
sustain forever.
only 35 were made
one recently sold for upwards of $35,000. VERY underrated keyboard, oh well
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threefates
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 18:09 |
asuma wrote:
my favourite sound on a keyboard is that very 80's/new wave chessy sound. along with the keyboard style that is present with the unicorns.
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Wasn't that the Yamaha GX1?? 
Altho Keith did really enjoy that ribbon controller, didn't he....
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 20:11 |
Only keys that do it for me are:
Melotron
EMS VCS-3
Moog Modular & 1,11,111C
Hammond B/C3 with Leslie
A nice lottery win should just about cover that lot second hand.
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threefates
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 21:44 |
Lunarscape wrote:
ThreeFates; Sorry to desagree a bit. The true King of the Hammond in Prog Rock is Thjiis Van Leer. Give "Moving Waves", Focus III and Hamburger Concerto a try and you'll know why !
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You almost made me spit my sides laughing....Maybe you should listen to some of the Nice's albums... start with Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 22:46 |
Hammond B3, Mellotron, Steinway Grand Piano and Kurzweil Keyboards, the perfect set, if you want something extra, try some Church Pipe Organ for studio recordings.
Iván
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Garion81
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 23:04 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Kurzweil Keyboards, Iván
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 23:07 |
Hey Garion, watch Kansas Device, Voice Drums DVD and listen the sound created by Steve Walsh with his Kurzweil K2661, it's amazing.

Iván
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Garion81
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 23:16 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Hey Garion, watch Kansas Device, Voice Drums DVD and listen the sound created by Steve Walsh with his Kurzweil K2661, it's amazing.

Iván
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Yes he does. 
That is a great concert DVD although it would be better recorded today because he is singing better now. It is amazing when you think of all those hands and keyboards Kansas used to create the songs in the 70's that he does with KURZWEIL now by himself. He was such a great singer that people tend to forget how great a keyboard player he was too.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 23:59 |
Steve says about Kurzweil:
"I've ALWAYS used Kurzweil gear, beginning with the K2VX, and now the new K2661. The K2VX has been an inspiration on many of our recordings and I can't wait to see what the K2661 will bring to our music."
Kurzweil is not an expensive keyboard, but the sound is incredibly good, of course is not top notch, but has something special, it's very versatile.
Compare it with some terrible keyboards Rick Wakeman started to use since the late 70's and the difference is incredible.
Buy the way, he's still a great singer, he had a vocal chords operation a few months before Device Voice Drums, and after the recovery period he's singing better than ever.
Iván
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 12:00 |
If it wasn't clear, the Godley-Creme Gizmo was a guitar effect: a series of 6 wheels, each under a string - so when in operation a string could be depressed on to its wheel to give a violin-like sound. Consequences was the optimum demo album to show what other tricks/sound effects were possible. I'm sure somebody corrected my long term assumption that the choral effects (e.g. I'm Not In Love) was not in effect G & C stripping out the standard tape loops from a Mellotron and replacing them with tape loops of their own voices.
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sigod
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 12:03 |
Dick Heath wrote:
If it wasn't clear, the Godley-Creme
Gizmo was a guitar effect: a series of 6 wheels, each under a
string - so when in operation a string could be depressed on
to its wheel to give a violin-like sound. Consequences
was the optimum demo album to show what other tricks/sound effects were
possible. I'm sure somebody corrected my long term assumption that the
choral effects (e.g. I'm Not In Love) was not G & C due to
stripping out the standard tape loops from a Mellotron and putting tap
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DH, thank you for that mate, I was always curious about how the Gizmo functioned. I wonder how many were produced though?
I'd have one even today.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 12:24 |
sigod wrote:
DH, thank you for that mate, I was always curious about how the Gizmo functioned. I wonder how many were produced though?
I'd have one even today. 
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Interesting that G & C dropped out of 10cc (and where did they get their name from....?) to promote their patented invention the Gizmo, they must have felt they had some real business opportunities?
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 12:31 |
King of the Hammond - Step forward....Mr Dave Greenslade
Best use of ARP 2600 - Tony Banks anybody ??
VCS3 - Peter Badens (RIP)
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