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    Posted: July 07 2005 at 22:14
As much as I hate to do this, this thread has spiralled so far off topic that I feel it needs to be locked.  Maybe we can try it again if Teaflax decides to calm down...
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:



I shouldn't let it worry you. Teaflax is turning out to be the grumpiest bastard I've ever seen on a forum (and I've seen A LOT) so I'm beginning to find his little rants rather endearing.

yeah i like the guy myself

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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 22:09
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Listen, I didn't rip on you for "Their is so much misspelling", so I think I'm being really damned nice.

THERE.....are you happy?I never said I was perfect,I make mistakes sometimes,it's called being human.I didn't know we were back in school and every post has to have correct spelling and be grammatically correct.



Only if you're Swedish.  Because despite the many, many different styles and dialects, only his is right, and if you put a pause in the wrong place, he'll slit your throat.

Good one MO


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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 22:07
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Listen, I didn't rip on you for "Their is so much misspelling", so I think I'm being really damned nice.

THERE.....are you happy?I never said I was perfect,I make mistakes sometimes,it's called being human.I didn't know we were back in school and every post has to have correct spelling and be grammatically correct.



Only if you're Swedish.  Because despite the many, many different styles and dialects, only his is right, and if you put a pause in the wrong place, he'll slit your throat.
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Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Listen, I didn't rip on you for "Their is so much misspelling", so I think I'm being really damned nice.

THERE.....are you happy?I never said I was perfect,I make mistakes sometimes,it's called being human.I didn't know we were back in school and every post has to have correct spelling and be grammatically correct.


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Listen, I didn't rip on you for "Their is so much misspelling", so I think I'm being really damned nice.
 
The only thread I've been seriously antagonistic in has been the "Prog ruleth all forms of Art and all Punk Rockers are vermin" one, where there were some people who needed a severe clipping about the ears.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 21:41
You have a right to express your opinions,and this causes me no discomfort.You just seem to antagonize people.I don't come to this forum to argue or fight.


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Your behavior in most topics is borderline Trollish.
 
Exuse my having opinions. I apologize for expressing them. And my condolences on the discomfort this obviously causes you.
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Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Have you ever been to the US?Their is so much misspelling and grammatical errors in products and stores here it is sickening.We have Quikee Marts,Mello Yello,Kleenex,Rice Krispies,Kool-Aid,Kripsy Kreme,Scotch Gard...etc,etc.If you wrote to the company pointing that out NOTHING would happen.
 
Those are deliberate brand-name "errors". Not even remotely the same thing.

I see your point about THAT,but I'm not going to argue with you anymore.Your behavior in most topics is borderline Trollish.


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Have you ever been to the US?Their is so much misspelling and grammatical errors in products and stores here it is sickening.We have Quikee Marts,Mello Yello,Kleenex,Rice Krispies,Kool-Aid,Kripsy Kreme,Scotch Gard...etc,etc.If you wrote to the company pointing that out NOTHING would happen.
 
Those are deliberate brand-name "errors". Not even remotely the same thing.
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Reaction of friends when introduced to yes: " This is gay"

genesis: "This is so gay"

Gentle Giant: "You are so gay"

King Crimson: "What the heck is this, this makes no sense!! Your wierd for listening to this....your still gay"
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Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

English isn't anything like it originally was either, it gets changed on a near-daily basis.
 
 
If you bought a product like a candy bar in the US (or the UK, or France, Spain, etc.) and its wrapper had some serious grammar or spelling error on it, and you contacted the company to let them know this, they would be grateful that you caught it, slightly embarassed that it had gotten through QC and would most certainly fix it.
 
If you do that in Sweden, you get asked who the hell you think you are, why in the world you would care, and why should they change it since "people understand what it says anyway". The lack of respect for the language here is staggering. You can't grasp it until you've lived here.
 
 

Have you ever been to the US?Their is so much misspelling and grammatical errors in products and stores here it is sickening.We have Quikee Marts,Mello Yello,Kleenex,Rice Krispies,Kool-Aid,Kripsy Kreme,Scotch Gard...etc,etc.If you wrote to the company pointing that out NOTHING would happen.


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Originally posted by IDDQD IDDQD wrote:

Well, Tool isn't so much bad as they are mind numbingly boring. They aren't prog or Metal, btw. I suppose they're hardrock with prog influences. They put me to sleep.

My god,not another one.A favorite band of mine and one I find extremely interesting.They are absolutely superb live,best I have seen...period.And their last 2 albums ARE progressive metal.


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Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

English isn't anything like it originally was either, it gets changed on a near-daily basis.
 
Yes, but it moves towards clarity and the written language getting closer to the spoken word.
 
I'm not generally a prescriptivist, but what's happening in Swedish is the exact opposite.
 
If you bought a product like a candy bar in the US (or the UK, or France, Spain, etc.) and its wrapper had some serious grammar or spelling error on it, and you contacted the company to let them know this, they would be grateful that you caught it, slightly embarassed that it had gotten through QC and would most certainly fix it.
 
If you do that in Sweden, you get asked who the hell you think you are, why in the world you would care, and why should they change it since "people understand what it says anyway". The lack of respect for the language here is staggering. You can't grasp it until you've lived here.
 
Working as a translator, I don't know how often I hear people telling how much Swedish sucks as a language (I'm sure it's almost weekly). And then they'll praise English, and how they understand it so well that they don't need to read the subtitles on TV. After that, they'll be introduced to my American wife, and hardly be able to keep up a running conversation with her. It's just sad.


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Hmm..., Alien music, now there's an idea!

Indeed, the English language is getting butchered beyond recognition now and it bugs me to be honest.  The whole invention of texting/chat-rooms means that the shorthand people use, is becoming the standard nowadays.

I type reasonably fast, so typing sentences out fully is no extra hardship for me and people get what I mean too.  I still get confused with texting shorthand and I'm 24!

I have noticed something amongst us progsters and that is that we are a very literature bunch.

James.
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Originally posted by Arteum Arteum wrote:

- Ah, the music you should listen to when doped up ...  

Typical. Ignorance of the highest order, I cannot stand it.
I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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My friend's reaction to some song from "Division Bell" (I forgot which it was):

- What's that?

- "Pink Floyd"

- Ah, the music you should listen to when doped up ...  
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I think most "ordinary" people are just so unprepared for prog. They think all music should sound just like "radio".

I bet prog sounds to them just like the alien music would sound to me! 
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"Sounds Like really bad 80's music, it's really aweful" - my friends reaction to KC's "Discipline"
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English isn't anything like it originally was either, it gets changed on a near-daily basis.

And that site's hilarious. 

Anyway, if the gay comedian made a gay joke in a tongue-in-cheek, silly manner that showed he wasn't serious about it, I would not be offended.  An example would be if he talked about a time he started lisping heavily at a job interview.  Of *course* he wouldn't really do that, it's just silly to say it. 

I know that Swedish is a beautiful and expressive language, I especially love the pitch and rhythm of it.  When Roine said there were "four words", no one got the idea that it was a non-expressive language.  Hell, he used to write songs entirely in Swedish.  And during the set, he talked to his keyboardist, Tomas, in Swedish.  If anyone thought he was serious about the "four words" thing, they'd be immediately corrected at that point.
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