Queen.....WHY THE HELL NOT?!?!?!

Dick Heath wrote: trailrunner wrote: Queen was also a flagship of '70s prog, What an odd idea? Not in the 70's , they were heard and seen as a good & successful glam rock band by their 3rd album release. Other glam rock bands: Bowie, Bebop Deluxe, T Rex, Sweet ( and we can go a bit too far and bring in Gary Glitter and Mud). And no, glam rock wasn't seen/heard as part of prog rock at that time. but most people started knowing about them already with Bohemian Rhapsody, which IS prog, and often voted one of the best songs ever, all categories. Hate to tell you that when Night at the opera was first released we thought Queen were taking the piss wrt Bohemian Rhapsody - it's always been over the top and Queen have said this. And note: for almost  decade 10cc I'm Not In Love was voted the No. 1 song, and then LZ's Stairway To Heaven  - inclusion in the  soundtrack of a successful youth movie does marvels for publicity and renown (but passing thought: what the f888 was a rock tune doing in a movie about Robin Hood...............?)

I think the label "Bogus Pomp" fit's Bohemian Rhapsody more than the Zappa tune of that name ... Bohemian Rhapsody is great, but I wouldn't call it prog.

Queen II is prog, but that's one album out of more than a dozen others which aren't progressive.

WOW...I guess I made alot of people angry with my post. Gee, I guess I should keep my mouth shut and stop spewing the "garbage" (as one member said) from my mouth........HAHAHAHA...YEAH RIGHT!!!!............PISS OFF!!..........There is no reason to apologize or feel guilty for my feelings, and I refuse to do so.....NOW IT'S MY TURN TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!. First off.........any one who calls Uriah Heep a GREAT band is CRAZY and out of their minds. Let me give you guys a little education....YES is a great prog band, Gentle Giant is a great prog band, ELP and King Crimson are great prog bands, Jethro Tull and Genesis are great prog bands,  Frank Zappa is a f**kING GENIUS.......URIAH HEEP?!?!?!?!?!?!...........not in your wildest dreams.....Uriah Heep couldn't lace Gentle Giant's shoes......PERIOD!!!! I listened to an album of Uriah today...and admittedly the vocals were excellent, but you CAN NOT compare them to YES or ELP or King Crimson.....

Secondly, my feelings about Pink Floyd are MY FEELINGS, and I am entitled to those feelings. I refuse to bow and worship at their feet when there are tons of bands who SMOKE them musically and technically. You think that I'm the ONLY ONE who doubts whether or not Pink Floyd is truly progressive???????????..........Get a clue people.

Thirdly...when people stupidly say.."I like Queen, but lets keep this site clean".......what the f**k does that mean?!?!?!?!.....I don't get that at all. Fourthly, the person who called Freddie Mercury a posturing primadonna, and basically suggested that its an insult to compare him to Peter Gabriel is an idiot. That comment is soooo loaded with biased, and prejudice feelings that it is ridiculous. Its amazing how someone can get torn apart for simply expressing their views...this is just like all you FOOLS who went on that PUNK site like dumbasses and started bashing punk......what is your problem????????? Prog Fans need to GET OVER THEMSELVES...PERIOD. You are no better because you listen to prog music.

Oh yeah and the guy who is HARPING on Fat Bottomed Gilrs....GET OVER IT!!....Why dont you concentrate on all the crappy albums your progressive rock heros made.

Proglover wrote: Oh yeah and the guy who is HARPING on Fat Bottomed Gilrs....GET OVER IT!!....Why dont you concentrate on all the crappy albums your progressive rock heros made.

Hey, I'm that guy, and I can't get over it, it's that bad, it's beyond bad. Even Yes and Genesis and ELP and on and on never consciously created a complete piece of crap like that. I'm not getting over it, so you better get over my not getting over it, bub!   

Can you all stop bashing Fat Bottomed Girls.

My girlfriend is crying now, and I have to make it up to her, and I don't have the energie man

Fragile wrote: Proglover wrote: WOW...I guess I made alot of people angry with my post. Gee, I guess I should keep my mouth shut and stop spewing the "garbage" (as one member said) from my mouth........HAHAHAHA...YEAH RIGHT!!!!............PISS OFF!!..........There is no reason to apologize or feel guilty for my feelings, and I refuse to do so.....NOW IT'S MY TURN TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!. First off.........any one who calls Uriah Heep a GREAT band is CRAZY and out of their minds. Let me give you guys a little education....YES is a great prog band, Gentle Giant is a great prog band, ELP and King Crimson are great prog bands, Jethro Tull and Genesis are great prog bands,  Frank Zappa is a f**kING GENIUS.......URIAH HEEP?!?!?!?!?!?!...........not in your wildest dreams.....Uriah Heep couldn't lace Gentle Giant's shoes......PERIOD!!!! I listened to an album of Uriah today...and admittedly the vocals were excellent, but you CAN NOT compare them to YES or ELP or King Crimson..... Secondly, my feelings about Pink Floyd are MY FEELINGS, and I am entitled to those feelings. I refuse to bow and worship at their feet when there are tons of bands who SMOKE them musically and technically. You think that I'm the ONLY ONE who doubts whether or not Pink Floyd is truly progressive???????????..........Get a clue people. Thirdly...when people stupidly say.."I like Queen, but lets keep this site clean".......what the f**k does that mean?!?!?!?!.....I don't get that at all. Fourthly, the person who called Freddie Mercury a posturing primadonna, and basically suggested that its an insult to compare him to Peter Gabriel is an idiot. That comment is soooo loaded with biased, and prejudice feelings that it is ridiculous. Its amazing how someone can get torn apart for simply expressing their views...this is just like all you FOOLS who went on that PUNK site like dumbasses and started bashing punk......what is your problem????????? Prog Fans need to GET OVER THEMSELVES...PERIOD. You are no better because you listen to prog music. Oh yeah and the guy who is HARPING on Fat Bottomed Gilrs....GET OVER IT!!....Why dont you concentrate on all the crappy albums your progressive rock heros made. Where were you torn apart you were simply told some of the facts of life You were the one dismissing Uriah Heep.Comparing Mercury to Gabriel well if you really believe that good luck to you.Freddie had a unique singing voice but one I can listen in small doses.But if the only way you can get a point across is by the use of expletives and perambulating into insults then perhaps you should' look at yourself' for you are the person trying to ram your very subjective points down other's throats.Whilst I think your comments on Uriah heep are miles out theyr'e yours and I don't recall them being compared to Yes and ELP.Uriah Heep were a great rock band with a propensity to prog on some tunes.Try swallowing an iceberg oh and another thing most of the people on here do not need enforced education from anyone.

First off JERK.....in regards to Freddie and Peter I was making reference to their showmanship, which of course no one got. BOTH were theatrical and had amazing showmanship. THAT'S MY POINT!!!!!!! I was not suggesting that Freddie was BETTER than Peter Gabriel....I was trying to be a peace maker in the midst of a consciously heated post that I knew would get people angry, and make some sort of connection even with those who disagreed with me...and as far as Freddie is concerned.....have some damn respect for the dead....It is absolutely disgraceful.

SECONDLY, why the hell shouldn't I dismiss Uriah Heep....IN MY OPINION THEY ARE NOT GREAT...PERIOD!!!!!!! And when you use words like "great"......you are applying a certain standard of excellence, which would automatically place them in direct reflection to those prog bands who were the pioneers of the genre, and Uriah Heep DOES NOT MATCH UP.

And no....wrong AGAIN, I was not trying to ram my opinion down anyone's throat....so lets get it straight.......I wanted someone to give me a GOOD reason why they weren't on the site, AND I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A GOOD ANSWER.....and instead i got people insulting Freddie Mercury which once again is f**king disgusting.....and criticizing me for having a mind and speaking my opinions. I react to what I have been giving...if you are going to make stupid offensive comments expect me to respond in turn.

Proglover wrote: Fragile wrote: Proglover wrote: WOW...I guess I made alot of people angry with my post. Gee, I guess I should keep my mouth shut and stop spewing the "garbage" (as one member said) from my mouth........HAHAHAHA...YEAH RIGHT!!!!............PISS OFF!!..........There is no reason to apologize or feel guilty for my feelings, and I refuse to do so.....NOW IT'S MY TURN TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!. First off.........any one who calls Uriah Heep a GREAT band is CRAZY and out of their minds. Let me give you guys a little education....YES is a great prog band, Gentle Giant is a great prog band, ELP and King Crimson are great prog bands, Jethro Tull and Genesis are great prog bands,  Frank Zappa is a f**kING GENIUS.......URIAH HEEP?!?!?!?!?!?!...........not in your wildest dreams.....Uriah Heep couldn't lace Gentle Giant's shoes......PERIOD!!!! I listened to an album of Uriah today...and admittedly the vocals were excellent, but you CAN NOT compare them to YES or ELP or King Crimson..... Secondly, my feelings about Pink Floyd are MY FEELINGS, and I am entitled to those feelings. I refuse to bow and worship at their feet when there are tons of bands who SMOKE them musically and technically. You think that I'm the ONLY ONE who doubts whether or not Pink Floyd is truly progressive???????????..........Get a clue people. Thirdly...when people stupidly say.."I like Queen, but lets keep this site clean".......what the f**k does that mean?!?!?!?!.....I don't get that at all. Fourthly, the person who called Freddie Mercury a posturing primadonna, and basically suggested that its an insult to compare him to Peter Gabriel is an idiot. That comment is soooo loaded with biased, and prejudice feelings that it is ridiculous. Its amazing how someone can get torn apart for simply expressing their views...this is just like all you FOOLS who went on that PUNK site like dumbasses and started bashing punk......what is your problem????????? Prog Fans need to GET OVER THEMSELVES...PERIOD. You are no better because you listen to prog music. Oh yeah and the guy who is HARPING on Fat Bottomed Gilrs....GET OVER IT!!....Why dont you concentrate on all the crappy albums your progressive rock heros made. Where were you torn apart you were simply told some of the facts of life You were the one dismissing Uriah Heep.Comparing Mercury to Gabriel well if you really believe that good luck to you.Freddie had a unique singing voice but one I can listen in small doses.But if the only way you can get a point across is by the use of expletives and perambulating into insults then perhaps you should' look at yourself' for you are the person trying to ram your very subjective points down other's throats.Whilst I think your comments on Uriah heep are miles out theyr'e yours and I don't recall them being compared to Yes and ELP.Uriah Heep were a great rock band with a propensity to prog on some tunes.Try swallowing an iceberg oh and another thing most of the people on here do not need enforced education from anyone.     First off JERK.....in regards to Freddie and Peter I was making reference to their showmanship, which of course no one got. BOTH were theatrical and had amazing showmanship. THAT'S MY POINT!!!!!!! I was not suggesting that Freddie was BETTER than Peter Gabriel....I was trying to be a peace maker in the midst of a consciously heated post that I knew would get people angry, and make some sort of connection even with those who disagreed with me...and as far as Freddie is concerned.....have some damn respect for the dead....It is absolutely disgraceful. SECONDLY, why the hell shouldn't I dismiss Uriah Heep....IN MY OPINION THEY ARE NOT GREAT...PERIOD!!!!!!! And when you use words like "great"......you are applying a certain standard of excellence, which would automatically place them in direct reflection to those prog bands who were the pioneers of the genre, and Uriah Heep DOES NOT MATCH UP. And no....wrong AGAIN, I was not trying to ram my opinion down anyone's throat....so lets get it straight.......I wanted someone to give me a GOOD reason why they weren't on the site, AND I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A GOOD ANSWER.....and instead i got people insulting Freddie Mercury which once again is f**king disgusting.....and criticizing me for having a mind and speaking my opinions. I react to what I have been giving...if you are going to make stupid offensive comments expect me to respond in turn.

may I say I don't like your tone, and method of arguing

Borealis wrote: Proglover wrote: Now not to start a complete progressive riot.....but I still STRUGGLE with the idea that Pink Floyd and the Moody Blues are progressive. Certainly there are some Queen "tunes" which to me are more progressive than Pink Floyd or Moody Blues. I'm sorry people, but I just dont see them as being progressive. So come on Queen fans, let us fight with conviction to get this amazingly talented band on this site. You lost all you credibility here... I mean, with fisrt that kind of annoying message yelling to add Queen, then those kind of lame arguments. Man, please... Also, just check out even a little bit, and you'll find half of this forum section are topic asking to add Queen, so no need to start another one...

CREDIBILITY??????????......HAHAHA, and I suppose YOU have credibility because you think Pink Floyd in Proegressive?????????...............Get over yourself!!

And first off.....I wasn't yelling to get Queen on the site......NOW Im yelling yes...cause now Im pissed off...........God Forbid I have an opinion, God forbid I live in America and think I have the right to express myself.....And whatever hidden bias you people have against Queen, you need to get over it.....I dont know...was it beacause Freddie was gay???.....I mean not to imply anything, but Im trying to figure out the strong response. Im not one to sit back and let people attack me, so as long as responses like this continue...expect me to respond IN TURN......thanks.

Fragile wrote: Oh dear !!!a rather over expressive, loud, abrasive, American. Well whoopee for Mr oversensitive let's hear your pearls.Why don't you roar out in a galvanic stentorian haze whilst bombasting the Universe with your heavy duty retorts..But hey, I'm a very ameniable guy what is a Jerk????? Is this new? is it English? Or is it just part of your mannerisms? You could always just bludgeon your way through your posts like some runaway freight train.Ever heard of exchanging views without lambasting others, methinks not.But you have fun.

Why point out that he's an American? That's rather bigoted thinking. I'm an American and I take offense to that. I wouldn't derogativly identify you by nationality, I find that offensive.

Proglover wrote: And first off.....I wasn't yelling to get Queen on the site......NOW Im yelling yes...cause now Im pissed off...........God Forbid I have an opinion, God forbid I live in America and think I have the right to express myself.....And whatever hidden bias you people have against Queen, you need to get over it.....I dont know...was it beacause Freddie was gay???.....I mean not to imply anything, but Im trying to figure out the strong response. Im not one to sit back and let people attack me, so as long as responses like this continue...expect me to respond IN TURN......thanks.

Everyone has the right to express themselves just as everyone has the right to be stupid.You abuse both these rights in equal measure.Well at least you are consistent.

I shouldnt be harsh because you probably only learned to read and write recently and are now so over-excited with the concept that you now believe you should write as much as possible,regardless of quality,just in case this new found skill disappears overnight.

Well good luck to you.

Proglover wrote: Tony R wrote: Proglover wrote: And first off.....I wasn't yelling to get Queen on the site......NOW Im yelling yes...cause now Im pissed off...........God Forbid I have an opinion, God forbid I live in America and think I have the right to express myself.....And whatever hidden bias you people have against Queen, you need to get over it.....I dont know...was it beacause Freddie was gay???.....I mean not to imply anything, but Im trying to figure out the strong response. Im not one to sit back and let people attack me, so as long as responses like this continue...expect me to respond IN TURN......thanks. Everyone has the right to express themselves just as everyone has the right to be stupid.You abuse both these rights in equal measure.Well at least you are consistent. I shouldnt be harsh because you probably only learned to read and write recently and are now so over-excited with the concept that you now believe you should write as much as possible,regardless of quality,just in case this new found skill disappears overnight. Well good luck to you. I find it funny....how I express my opinion which I have every right to do.....THEN, I am bashed over the head for doing so........then I defend myself.....and now I'm the bad guy...... I am trying really hard to be as calm as humanly possible.....I dont want to make enemies, but I refuse to be attacked in this manner. It is quite rude and disgusting. I regret I ever started this post. If I would have known that I would have received such close minded and hateful responses I would have chosen another topic. Obviously Queen is a sore subject with you guys. I still stand by opinions and I do not apologize for them. They are my beliefs and I shall hold on to them with conviction.

Cool,I counted eight lines without a single over-the-top reaction to another forum member.And the word "regret" too.

Congratulations,you've been cured.