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nousommedusolei 
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 Topic: Primus HATES The Mars Volta
Posted: July 06 2005 at 03:26 |
I know a kid who listens to TMV. He's an ass.
Primus is great. Les Claypool is wonderful.
I also enjoy Oysterhead and Frog Brigade.
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Hangedman
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 20:04 |
 Retrovertigo wrote:
Wow, you guys are knocking Les' vocals. You know what? Les is just telling stories in his songs. It's really about their interaction and music. The vocals are optional, just why not put some catchy as hell story lyrics in there? He's not trying to relay serious messages with the music or be known as an excellent vocalist. Sorry that Primus doesn't reach your qualifications to be considered "serious good music", you know it's music, don't talk crap if you don't like it. Why do you all have to knock bands you don't listen to so hard, it's ignorant and you look stupid.
And how dare some of you say Primus "don't play music". Give me a BREAK. Why is it not music? They're excellent players, their songs are extremely groovy and their melodies and switches are awesome in my opinion, and anything can be music, them having albums alone as an ensemble that uses intruments alone is enough.
Also, where does it say in the Bull Board that "Primus hates The Mars Volta", straight from Primus. I see nothing but a few fans talking crap about The Mars Volta. As far as Mr. Bungle and Primus, if they have any hatred towards eachother, it's because they're constantly compared.
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Im a big primus fan, but just because les is telling stories doesnt make it good singing 
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 18:23 |
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Wow, you guys are knocking Les' vocals. You know what? Les
is just telling stories in his songs. It's really about their
interaction and music. The vocals are optional, just why not put
some catchy as hell story lyrics in there? He's not trying to
relay serious messages with the music or be known as an excellent
vocalist. Sorry that Primus doesn't reach your qualifications to
be considered "serious good music", you know it's music, don't talk
crap if you don't like it. Why do you all have to knock bands you
don't listen to so hard, it's ignorant and you look stupid.
And how dare some of you say Primus "don't play music". Give me a
BREAK. Why is it not music? They're excellent players,
their songs are extremely groovy and their melodies and switches are
awesome in my opinion, and anything can be music, them having albums
alone as an ensemble that uses intruments alone is enough.
Also, where does it say in the Bull Board that "Primus hates The Mars
Volta", straight from Primus. I see nothing but a few fans
talking crap about The Mars Volta. As far as Mr. Bungle and
Primus, if they have any hatred towards eachother, it's because they're
constantly compared.
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boo boo
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:33 |
no more primus bashing...and i think claypool writes some great songs, no matter how silly they are.
PS.i like claypool's vocals. =(
Edited by boo boo
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Arsillus
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Posted: June 28 2005 at 21:03 |
Reaper16 wrote:
Hangedman wrote:
Fantômas wrote:
Primus is better than TMV (Les Claypool is a GOD, and TMV is a good band). |
Since when does capability of the musicians alone dictate how good a band is |
Since Dream Theatre, apparantly.
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Biggles
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Posted: June 28 2005 at 20:40 |
HeirToRuin wrote:
Primus is a prime example of excellent musicianship in a bunch of nonsensical songs. |
Bingo.
I think I would like Primus more if they ever decided to make something that actually counts as MUSIC. They're excellent musicians, so I'm sure they'd be able to do it if the fancy suited them. They haven't come to that yet, though.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: June 28 2005 at 10:36 |
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Both are amazing in completely different ways. As a bass player myself, I am more inclined toward primus. each band has a completely different goal in their music, so it's apples and oranges really.
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Reaper16
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Posted: June 27 2005 at 03:36 |
Hangedman wrote:
Fantômas wrote:
Primus is better than TMV (Les Claypool is a GOD, and TMV is a good band). |
Since when does capability of the musicians alone dictate how good a band is |
Since Dream Theatre, apparantly.
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Hobble
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 19:01 |
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How can you even begin to compare the two? they're two completely different styles, they both can hold their own, and they both have loads of talent. But no matter how hard you try, you cannot prove one to be better than the other. it's just a matter of opinion
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Arsillus
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 19:21 |
I really do like Primus, but after a while, song after song of leading basslines (that get old sometimes too) and weird vocals gets to me. TMV has WAY more going on in their music and I find generally more interesting.
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tuxon
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:01 |
Who are primus and The Mars Volta anyway.
Merely a footnote of a footnote in progressive rock history
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Logos
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:24 |
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Primus is crap.
TMV is great.
That's the way it really is.
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 07:49 |
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I, too, would like to thank you for informing me about a horrible vocalist's hatred of a band that is consistent would exceptional vocal technique. From now on, I'll obey all of Primus' wishes and despise any musician(s) who may or may not be a lot better than them.
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 20:56 |
I like Primus, but Comparing them to TMV is stretching things abit.
The only true thing they have in common is a love of KC.
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 09:11 |
HeirToRuin wrote:
Primus is a prime example of excellent musicianship in a bunch of nonsensical songs. |
The fact is that they are supposed to be "non-sensical": it's not the result of lack of musical creativity, but a solid artistic option. There is a lot of satyre in Claypool's wicked intrincate bass lines, the Crimsonian guita rriffs and the jazz-rock drumming style delivered by Tim Alexander.
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MikeSweedish
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 08:07 |
Yeah if you were to only judge bands by their talent ELP would be at the top, I don't like them, but I do like Primus and TMV. Both enjoyalble and talented bands.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: May 31 2005 at 07:06 |
Still, it always hurts to listen to Primus, and then give KC's
"Elephant Talk" a listen. It's like "Oh... so that's what
they were trying to do.  "
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 23:31 |
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Primus is a prime example of excellent musicianship in a bunch of nonsensical songs.
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 23:31 |
Yes, Primus is more groundbreaking, or at least they were so in the late 80s all the way through the 90s. The Mars Volta is a good band that sails across many genres in a challenging, energetic manner, but I find their stuff less powerful andless wicked than that of the best Primus (the Tim Alexander-era albums)... and the more wicked, the better!!
Regards.
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Hangedman
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 23:25 |
Fantômas wrote:
Primus is better than TMV (Les Claypool is a GOD, and TMV is a good band). |
Since when does capability of the musicians alone dictate how good a band is, heck that makes ELP easily one of the top bands of all genres three. incredible musicians (one doubles as a incredible vocalist) but the compositions (imo anyways) leave a lot to be desired. In short, I dont think Primus are good songwriters 
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