Punks Hate Prog.

boo boo wrote: Cesar Inca wrote: tuxon wrote: I think Sid vicious is turning in his grave over this. My friend and fellow ProgArchiver Tuxon, I seriously doubt it . You can only turn in your grave about something when you can have some sort of intellectual activity in your brain, and Sid hardly had any when he was alive, since he was a near-retarded . I'm not sure that his IQ had gotten any higher in his afterdeath. he wasnt retarded, just talentless and wasted from drugs.

pretty sad he has more of a legacy (in music) than a slew of much more talented, educated and deserving prog 'musicians' - (something he was not)

tuxon wrote: I think Sid vicious is turning in his grave over this.

My friend and fellow ProgArchiver Tuxon, I seriously doubt it . You can only turn in your grave about something when you can have some sort of intellectual activity in your brain, and Sid hardly had any when he was alive, since he was a near-retarded . I'm not sure that his IQ had gotten any higher in his afterdeath.

Tony R wrote: smarmy........the quality of applying smarm. It's in my dictionary under "people more smarmy than me"

Teaflax wrote:   Respect for the prospective reader, maybe? And what an odd use of "smarm"...

 

Well nobody else has had any problems with it and presumably Boo Boo could read it ok (even if there was an attempt at "formatting").Therefore one would have to anticipate a problem that was not self-evident.Ergo you are being picky,and using an absolute (unreadable) which isnt warranted.Denigrating the whole thread because the original post is problematic for you.....

smarmy........the quality of applying smarm.

It's in my dictionary under "people more smarmy than me"

boo boo wrote: Teaflax wrote: The formatting ruining the first page makes this thread unreadable-   The "preview" button; it's your friend. Alternately: making a link. i tried editing it, eh, ill edit it all out and let people find it themselves.

Why? Because some smart-arse wants to smarm you?

 Well I can read it ok........and others have managed to contribute to this thread...

 

 

bogdan. wrote: boo boo wrote: Forgotten Son wrote: I must say, Boo Boo. It's amazing the difference in responses to that article between here and DDD. A lot of the responses on DDD were like OMGZ!!!11 PUNX SUK!!11 one one. It's refreshing to here the level of intellectual on this site, even though I don't agree with all the opinion expressed. that mainly has to do with the kind of people who are posting, i have come to learn that most progressive rock fans have an open mind and are not biased in a sense that they wouldnt try or respect other genres...DDD is run by metalheads who seem to think everything else is inferior, which is why i am put off by metalheads...im not saying that there arent metalheads out there with a open mind, i know there are some, but very few...anyway i like it here, screw DDD, whos need em?, i dont.   Here is another question. What do you now mean by telling open mind people. People who listens all kind of music(pop, rap, and other crap), or people who listens just music.

well, open minded people dosent necessarly mean somebody who likes everything, it means music goers who can respect or appreciate every genre for what its worth...even if its a genre they dont like...speaking of which...not all rap is bad...im anything but a rap fan and i hate most of it, but at least when its done right rap requires a lot of skill, rhythm, timing and good lyrics...so i can appreciate rap when its done right(which it rarely is nowedays with the likes of chingy and nelly)...im no tupac fan, but hes a good example of how rappers can be poets, plus he was skilled on the mic....to be honest, i still get down to the funky beats of public enemy, RUN-DMC and the beastie boys every once in a while.

Yes, but as Boo Boo stated, this guy spends time criticising albums like Sgt Peppers, which are so innaccesible (for their time) that it is inconceivable that the artists thought they were making a recodr that would sell and make them lots of money. I very much doubt many prog bands (except Asia and the like, if you can call them prog bands) were motivated by desire for material gain (beyond enough money to make a comfortable living). The artists he attacks are the artists that were creating the music they wanted to and just happened to become successful. It is bands that deliberately mimicked these greats that should come under criticism if what you say is the main theme of this article. Ironically there were far more bands that cashed into the punk movement than ever cashed into prog.
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That person had probably heard just those albums, so he critisized those albums.

I must say, Boo Boo. It's amazing the difference in responses to that article between here and DDD. A lot of the responses on DDD were like OMGZ!!!11 PUNX SUK!!11 one one.

It's refreshing to here the level of intellectual on this site, even though I don't agree with all the opinion expressed.

bogdan. wrote: but you still didn't get it, that he's not talking about music, but people who's thinking to make money with music (as I sad it before). Not just some prog musicians, but all kind "pop "music"". There are people who creates music and people who sells music. (1st kind of people sometimes become "sell music" people, that is here a problem).

Yes, but as Boo Boo stated, this guy spends time criticising albums like Sgt Peppers, which are so innaccesible (for their time) that it is inconceivable that the artists thought they were making a recodr that would sell and make them lots of money. I very much doubt many prog bands (except Asia and the like, if you can call them prog bands) were motivated by desire for material gain (beyond enough money to make a comfortable living). The artists he attacks are the artists that were creating the music they wanted to and just happened to become successful. It is bands that deliberately mimicked these greats that should come under criticism if what you say is the main theme of this article. Ironically there were far more bands that cashed into the punk movement than ever cashed into prog.